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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
To: Michal Simek <michal.simek@amd.com>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: Shubhrajyoti Datta <shubhrajyoti.datta@amd.com>,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, git@amd.com,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org,
	sboyd@kernel.org, mturquette@baylibre.com,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: clk: Add binding for versal clocking wizard
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 10:10:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f611237f-0401-9e3c-3a21-79b33141bb51@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57989d3e-a186-1d67-cff9-6a059f94ebd3@amd.com>

On 03/10/2022 09:58, Michal Simek wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/3/22 09:23, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 03/10/2022 09:15, Michal Simek wrote:
>>>>> And this is new IP. Not sure who has chosen similar name but this targets
>>>>> Xilinx Versal SOCs. Origin one was targeting previous families.
>>>>
>>>> Do we need a whole new schema doc?
>>>
>>> It is completely new IP with different logic compare to origin one.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is not ideal to define the same property, xlnx,nr-outputs, more than
>>>> once. And it's only a new compatible string.
>>>
>>> I can't see any issue with using dt binding for xlnx,clocking-wizard.yaml
>>>
>>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git/tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/clock/xlnx,clocking-wizard.yaml
>>
>> So we already have out of staging document:
>> devicetree/bindings/clock/xlnx,clocking-wizard.yaml
> 
> in 6.1 yes.
> 
>>
>> and author wants to add one more:
>> devicetree/bindings/clock/xlnx,clk-wizard.yaml
> 
> as I said it is completely different IP which requires complete different driver 
> but IP designers choose similar name which is out of developer control.
> 
>>
>> Shall we expect in two years, a third document like:
>> devicetree/bindings/clock/xlnx,clk-wzrd.yaml
>> ?
> 
> Developer definitely doesn't know. If new SoC requires for the same purpose 
> different IP with completely different driver is something out of developer 
> control. As of today I am not aware about such a requirement and need and 
> personally I can just hope that if they need to do such a change they will be 
> able to keep current SW driver compatible with new HW IP.

Then please start naming them reasonable, not two (and in future
x-times) the same names for entirely different blocks. And by name I
mean compatible, filename and device name.

>>> also for this IP if that's fine with you.
>>> Only xlnx,speed-grade can be defined for previous IP which is easy to mark.
>>
>> That old binding also explained nr-outputs as "Number of outputs".
>> Perfect... :(
> 
> Anyway if description should be improved let's just do it. I just want to get 
> guidance if we should update current dt binding for similar IP or just create 
> new one as this one is trying to do.

IMHO, new binding is extremely confusing. We already have support for
devices named "xlnx,clocking-wizard" and now you add exactly the same
(clk=clocking) with almost the same properties, named
"xlnx,clk-wizard-1.0". For a different IP?

How anyone (even Xilinx' customer) can understand which block is for
what if they have exactly the same name and (almost) the same
properties, but as you said - these are entirely different IP?

Best regards,
Krzysztof


  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-03  8:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-30  8:03 [PATCH 0/2] clocking-wizard: Add versal clocking wizard support Shubhrajyoti Datta
2022-09-30  8:03 ` [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: clk: Add binding for versal clocking wizard Shubhrajyoti Datta
2022-09-30 11:19   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-09-30 12:25   ` Rob Herring
2022-09-30 13:00     ` Michal Simek
2022-09-30 21:39       ` Rob Herring
2022-10-03  7:15         ` Michal Simek
2022-10-03  7:23           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-10-03  7:58             ` Michal Simek
2022-10-03  8:10               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2022-10-03  8:16                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-03  9:59                   ` Michal Simek
2022-10-03 10:41                     ` Michal Simek
2022-10-03 14:50                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-03 10:37                 ` Michal Simek
2022-10-03 10:50                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-10-03 15:27                     ` Michal Simek
2022-10-04 11:00                       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-10-04 11:04                         ` Michal Simek
2022-09-30  8:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] clocking-wizard: Add versal clocking wizard support Shubhrajyoti Datta

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