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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: mhklinux@outlook.com
Cc: kbusch@kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, sagi@grimberg.me,
	James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com,
	martin.petersen@oracle.com, kys@microsoft.com,
	haiyangz@microsoft.com, wei.liu@kernel.org, decui@microsoft.com,
	robin.murphy@arm.com, hch@lst.de, m.szyprowski@samsung.com,
	petr@tesarici.cz, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/7] Introduce swiotlb throttling
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2024 10:16:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240824081618.GB8527@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240822183718.1234-1-mhklinux@outlook.com>

On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 11:37:11AM -0700, mhkelley58@gmail.com wrote:
> Because it's not possible to detect at runtime whether a DMA map call
> is made in a context that can block, the calls in key device drivers
> must be updated with a MAY_BLOCK attribute, if appropriate. When this
> attribute is set and swiotlb memory usage is above a threshold, the
> swiotlb allocation code can serialize swiotlb memory usage to help
> ensure that it is not exhausted.

One thing I've been doing for a while but haven't gotten to due to
my lack of semantic patching skills is that we really want to split
the few flags useful for dma_map* from DMA_ATTR_* which largely
only applies to dma_alloc.

Only DMA_ATTR_WEAK_ORDERING (if we can't just kill it entirely)
and for now DMA_ATTR_NO_WARN is used for both.

DMA_ATTR_SKIP_CPU_SYNC and your new SLEEP/BLOCK attribute is only
useful for mapping, and the rest is for allocation only.

So I'd love to move to a DMA_MAP_* namespace for the mapping flags
before adding more on potentially widely used ones.

With a little grace period we can then also phase out DMA_ATTR_NO_WARN
for allocations, as the gfp_t can control that much better.

> In general, storage device drivers can take advantage of the MAY_BLOCK
> option, while network device drivers cannot. The Linux block layer
> already allows storage requests to block when the BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING
> flag is present on the request queue.

Note that this also in general involves changes to the block drivers
to set that flag, which is a bit annoying, but I guess there is not
easy way around it without paying the price for the BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING
overhead everywhere.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-08-24  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-22 18:37 [RFC 0/7] Introduce swiotlb throttling mhkelley58
2024-08-22 18:37 ` [RFC 1/7] swiotlb: " mhkelley58
2024-08-23  7:41   ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-23 20:41     ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-27 15:55       ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-27 17:30         ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-28  5:15           ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-28  6:14             ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-22 18:37 ` [RFC 2/7] dma: Handle swiotlb throttling for SGLs mhkelley58
2024-08-23  8:02   ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-23 20:42     ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-24 19:56       ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-22 18:37 ` [RFC 3/7] dma: Add function for drivers to know if allowing blocking is useful mhkelley58
2024-08-23  8:07   ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-22 18:37 ` [RFC 4/7] scsi_lib_dma: Add _attrs variant of scsi_dma_map() mhkelley58
2024-08-23  8:08   ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-22 18:37 ` [RFC 5/7] scsi: storvsc: Enable swiotlb throttling mhkelley58
2024-08-23  8:19   ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-23 20:42     ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-22 18:37 ` [RFC 6/7] nvme: Move BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING indicator to struct nvme_ctrl mhkelley58
2024-08-23  8:22   ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-22 18:37 ` [RFC 7/7] nvme: Enable swiotlb throttling for NVMe PCI devices mhkelley58
2024-08-23  8:26   ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-22 19:29 ` [RFC 0/7] Introduce swiotlb throttling Bart Van Assche
2024-08-23  2:20   ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-23  5:46     ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-24  8:05     ` hch
2024-08-23  6:44 ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-23 20:40   ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-24 20:05     ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-26 16:24       ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-26 19:28         ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-27  0:26           ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-27  8:00             ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-24  8:16 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-08-26 15:27   ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-27  7:14     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-28 12:02 ` Robin Murphy
2024-08-28 13:03   ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-28 16:30     ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-28 16:41       ` Petr Tesařík
2024-08-28 19:50     ` Robin Murphy
2024-08-30  3:58       ` Michael Kelley

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