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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 12/22] iommufd: Allow mapping from guest_memfd
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:37:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250219203708.GO3696814@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250219202324.uq2kq27kmpmptbwx@amd.com>

On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 02:23:24PM -0600, Michael Roth wrote:
> Just for clarity: at least for normal/nested page table (but I'm
> assuming the same applies to IOMMU mappings), 1G mappings are
> handled similarly as 2MB mappings as far as RMP table checks are
> concerned: each 2MB range is checked individually as if it were
> a separate 2MB mapping:

Well, IIRC we are dealing with the AMDv1 IO page table here which
supports more sizes than 1G and we likely start to see things like 4M
mappings and the like. So maybe there is some issue if the above
special case really only applies to 1G and only 1G.

> But the point still stands for 4K RMP entries and 2MB mappings: a 2MB
> mapping either requires private page RMP entries to be 2MB, or in the
> case of 2MB mapping of shared pages, every page in the range must be
> shared according to the corresponding RMP entries.

 Is 4k RMP what people are running?

> I think, for the non-SEV-TIO use-case, it had more to do with inability
> to unmap a 4K range once a particular 4K page has been converted

Yes, we don't support unmap or resize. The entire theory of operation
has the IOPTEs cover the guest memory and remain static at VM boot
time. The RMP alone controls access and handles the static/private.

Assuming the host used 2M pages the IOPTEs in an AMDv1 table will be
sized around 2M,4M,8M just based around random luck.

So it sounds like you can get to a situation with a >=2M mapping in
the IOPTE but the guest has split it into private/shared at lower
granularity and the HW cannot handle this?

> from shared to private if it was originally installed via a 2MB IOPTE,
> since the guest could actively be DMA'ing to other shared pages in
> the 2M range (but we can be assured it is not DMA'ing to a particular 4K
> page it has converted to private), and the IOMMU doesn't (AFAIK) have
> a way to atomically split an existing 2MB IOPTE to avoid this. 

The iommu can split it (with SW help), I'm working on that
infrastructure right now..

So you will get a notification that the guest has made a
private/public split and the iommu page table can be atomically
restructured to put an IOPTE boundary at the split.

Then the HW will not see IOPTEs that exceed the shared/private
granularity of the VM.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-19 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-18 11:09 [RFC PATCH v2 00/22] TSM: Secure VFIO, TDISP, SEV TIO Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-18 11:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/22] pci/doe: Define protocol types and make those public Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-15 20:15   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-02-18 11:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/22] PCI/IDE: Fixes to make it work on AMD SNP-SEV Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-18 11:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/22] PCI/IDE: Init IDs on all IDE streams beforehand Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-18 11:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/22] iommu/amd: Report SEV-TIO support Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-18 11:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/22] crypto: ccp: Enable SEV-TIO feature in the PSP when supported Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-03-22 11:50   ` Francesco Lavra
2025-03-26  4:26     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-18 11:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/22] KVM: X86: Define tsm_get_vmid Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-03-13  1:51   ` Dan Williams
2025-03-13  4:31     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-03-13 19:09       ` Dan Williams
2025-03-14  3:28         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-24  3:37           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-18 11:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/22] coco/tsm: Add tsm and tsm-host modules Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-03-14  1:14   ` Dan Williams
2025-05-14 18:39   ` Zhi Wang
2025-05-29  5:30     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-18 11:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/22] pci/tsm: Add PCI driver for TSM Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-15 20:25   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-02-18 11:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/22] crypto/ccp: Implement SEV TIO firmware interface Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-03-23 11:35   ` Francesco Lavra
2025-02-18 11:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/22] KVM: SVM: Add uAPI to change RMP for MMIO Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-03-15  0:08   ` Dan Williams
2025-03-27  5:00     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-18 11:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/22] KVM: SEV: Add TIO VMGEXIT Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-18 11:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/22] iommufd: Allow mapping from guest_memfd Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-18 14:16   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-18 23:35     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-18 23:51       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-19  0:43         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-19 13:35           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-19 20:23             ` Michael Roth
2025-02-19 20:37               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-02-19 21:30                 ` Michael Roth
2025-02-20  0:57                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-13  4:51                 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-03-19 17:40                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-20  2:29             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-18 11:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/22] iommufd: amd-iommu: Add vdevice support Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-01 16:11   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-10  6:39     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-10  8:43       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-04-10 13:05       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-14  4:17         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-18 11:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/22] iommufd: Add TIO calls Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-25  9:00   ` Xu Yilun
2025-02-26  0:12     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-26 10:49       ` Xu Yilun
2025-02-26 13:12         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-27  0:33           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-03-01  0:32             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-05  3:09               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-03-05 19:18                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-27  3:59           ` Xu Yilun
2025-03-01  0:37             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-03  5:32               ` Xu Yilun
2025-03-05 19:28                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-06  6:47                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-03-06 18:26                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-07  6:49                       ` Xu Yilun
2025-03-07  2:19                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-03-07 15:17                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-12 10:41                         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-03-12  1:11                       ` Xu Yilun
2025-02-26 13:08       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-15  1:11         ` Dan Williams
2025-03-17  2:32           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-01 15:53             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-13 11:01   ` Xu Yilun
2025-03-14  2:49     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-03-28  5:27   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-04-01 16:03     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-07 11:40       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-04-07 16:40         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-01 16:12   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-03  8:39     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-18 11:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/22] KVM: X86: Handle private MMIO as shared Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-15  8:18   ` Zhi Wang
2025-05-29  5:30     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-18 11:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/22] coco/tsm: Add tsm-guest module Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-05 17:15   ` Francesco Lavra
2025-02-18 11:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/22] resource: Mark encrypted MMIO resource on validation Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-05 18:19   ` Francesco Lavra
2025-02-18 11:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/22] coco/sev-guest: Implement the guest support for SEV TIO Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-07 11:05   ` Francesco Lavra
2025-02-18 11:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/22] RFC: pci: Add BUS_NOTIFY_PCI_BUS_MASTER event Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-15 20:26   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-02-18 11:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 20/22] sev-guest: Stop changing encrypted page state for TDISP devices Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-02-27 16:01   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18 11:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 21/22] pci: Allow encrypted MMIO mapping via sysfs Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-15 20:28   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-02-18 11:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 22/22] pci: Define pci_iomap_range_encrypted Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-15 20:30   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-02-27 15:48 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/22] TSM: Secure VFIO, TDISP, SEV TIO Borislav Petkov

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