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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>,
	Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, lukas@wunner.de,
	suzuki.poulose@arm.com, sameo@rivosinc.com, zhiw@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 12/13] PCI/TSM: support TDI related operations for host TSM driver
Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 13:52:22 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250528165222.GT61950@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250528164225.GS61950@nvidia.com>

On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 01:42:25PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > +int iommufd_vdevice_tsm_bind_ioctl(struct iommufd_ucmd *ucmd)
> > +{
> > +	struct iommu_vdevice_id *cmd = ucmd->cmd;
> > +	struct iommufd_vdevice *vdev;
> > +	int rc = 0;
> > +
> > +	vdev = container_of(iommufd_get_object(ucmd->ictx, cmd->vdevice_id,
> > +					       IOMMUFD_OBJ_VDEVICE),
> > +			    struct iommufd_vdevice, obj);
> > +	if (IS_ERR(vdev))
> > +		return PTR_ERR(vdev);
> > +
> > +	rc = tsm_bind(vdev->dev, vdev->viommu->kvm, vdev->id);
> 
> Yeah, that makes alot of sense now, you are passing in the KVM for the
> VIOMMU and both the vBDF and pBDF to the TSM layer, that should be
> enough for it to figure out what to do. The only other data would be
> the TSM's VIOMMU handle..

Actually it should also check that the viommu type is compatible with
the TSM, somehow.

The way I imagine this working is userspace would create a 
IOMMU_VIOMMU_TYPE_TSM_VTD (for example) viommu object which will do a
TSM call to setup the secure vIOMMU

Then when you create a VDEVICE against the IOMMU_VIOMMU_TYPE_TSM_VTD
it will do a TSM call to create the secure vPCI function attached to
the vIOMMU and register the vBDF. [1]

And finally bind will switch to T=1 mode.

But if someone creates a VIOMMU with IOMMU_VIOMMU_TYPE_ARM_SMMUV3 then
the vdevice shouldn't be allowed to work in TSM mode at all.

Finally IOMMU_VIOMMU_TYPE_TSM_NO_VIOMMU would be a "NOP" viommu type
that enables TSM support but has no vIOMMU and works with all the
iommu drivers.

Not sure exactly how to wrangle this all, but it should be done
here..

1 - IMHO alot of the architectures I've seen have messed up the VIOMMU
design by having completely separate IOMMUs for T=1 and T=0 traffic. I
hope people will fix this and allow the secure VIOMMU to translate
both T=0 and T=1 traffic as walking page tables in secure memory and
then rejecting T=0 if the final physical is secure memory. Meaning
from an API perspective we want the vPCI to possibly have a working
secure vIOMMU before we reach bind.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-28 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 173+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-16  5:47 [PATCH v3 00/13] PCI/TSM: Core infrastructure for PCI device security (TDISP) Dan Williams
2025-05-16  5:47 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] coco/tsm: Introduce a core device for TEE Security Managers Dan Williams
2025-06-02 13:18   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-04  0:42     ` Dan Williams
2025-06-04  1:15       ` Dan Williams
2025-06-04 12:15         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-04 12:14       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-06  3:33         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-06  2:09     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-16  5:47 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] PCI/IDE: Enumerate Selective Stream IDE capabilities Dan Williams
2025-06-17 12:16   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-12 22:31     ` dan.j.williams
2025-05-16  5:47 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] PCI/TSM: Authenticate devices via platform TSM Dan Williams
2025-05-21 15:32   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-06-03 19:53     ` Dan Williams
2025-06-04  8:04       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-06-17 12:51   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-12 22:07     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-26  1:31   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-08-26 23:54     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-27  4:44       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-08-28 19:27         ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-26  3:08   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-08-26 23:58     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-27  5:06       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-08-26 10:22   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-08-27  0:15     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-27  5:02       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-08-28 19:32         ` dan.j.williams
2025-05-16  5:47 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] PCI: Enable host-bridge emulation for PCI_DOMAINS_GENERIC platforms Dan Williams
2025-05-16  5:47 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] PCI: vmd: Switch to pci_bus_find_emul_domain_nr() Dan Williams
2025-05-16  5:47 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] samples/devsec: Introduce a PCI device-security bus + endpoint sample Dan Williams
2025-06-17 13:30   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-13  1:58     ` dan.j.williams
2025-05-16  5:47 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] PCI: Add PCIe Device 3 Extended Capability enumeration Dan Williams
2025-06-17 13:36   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-05-16  5:47 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] PCI/IDE: Add IDE establishment helpers Dan Williams
2025-06-17 14:04   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-14 18:25     ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-03  2:59   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-16  5:47 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] PCI/IDE: Report available IDE streams Dan Williams
2025-05-18 12:48   ` kernel test robot
2025-06-17 14:16   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-14 20:16     ` dan.j.williams
2025-05-16  5:47 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] PCI/TSM: Report active " Dan Williams
2025-06-17 14:21   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-14 20:49     ` dan.j.williams
2025-05-16  5:47 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] samples/devsec: Add sample IDE establishment Dan Williams
2025-06-17 14:26   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-14 20:59     ` dan.j.williams
2025-05-16  5:47 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] PCI/TSM: support TDI related operations for host TSM driver Dan Williams
2025-05-16  6:52   ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-20  7:17     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-05-21  9:35       ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-26  5:05         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-05-26  7:52           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-26 15:44             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-05-27  1:01               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-27 11:48                 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-05-27 13:06                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-27 14:26                     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-05-27 14:45                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-28 12:17                         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-05-28 16:42                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-28 16:52                             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-05-29  9:30                               ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-29 13:43                               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-05-29 14:09                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-30  3:00                                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-30 13:21                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-29 13:49                             ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-29 14:05                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-29  3:03                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-29 13:34                     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-05-29 13:37                       ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] coco: tsm: Add tsm_bind/unbind helpers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-05-29 13:37                         ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] iommufd/viommu: Add support to associate viommu with kvm instance Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-05-29 14:13                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-29 13:37                         ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] iommufd/tsm: Add tsm_bind/unbind iommufd ioctls Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-05-29 14:32                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-30  8:33                             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-05-30 18:18                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-31 16:25                           ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-02  4:52                             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-02 17:17                               ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-04  1:47                                 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-04  5:02                                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-04 12:37                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-06 15:40                                     ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-06 16:34                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-09  4:47                                         ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-02 11:08                             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-06-02 16:25                               ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-02 16:48                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-03  4:05                                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-03 12:11                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-04  5:58                                       ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-04 12:36                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-05  3:05                                           ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-10  7:05                                           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-10 18:19                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-11  1:26                                               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-10  4:47                                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-10 18:21                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-12  4:15                                       ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-03  5:00                                 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-06-03 10:50                                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-03 12:14                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-04  5:31                                       ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-04 12:31                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-05  3:25                                           ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-05 14:54                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-09  6:10                                               ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-09 16:42                                                 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-06-09 18:07                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-10  7:31                                         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-12  5:44                                           ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-03 12:18                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-04  1:06                                     ` Dan Williams
2025-06-04 12:18                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-02 12:47                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-03  3:47                               ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-03 12:08                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-04  6:39                                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-04 12:39                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-05  1:56                                       ` Xu Yilun
2025-07-15 10:29                           ` Xu Yilun
2025-07-15 13:09                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-16 15:41                               ` Xu Yilun
2025-07-16 16:31                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-17  8:28                                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-07-17 12:43                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-18  9:15                                       ` Xu Yilun
2025-07-18 12:26                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-20  2:37                                           ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-30  2:44                       ` [PATCH v3 12/13] PCI/TSM: support TDI related operations for host TSM driver Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-27 10:25               ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-06-03 22:47                 ` Dan Williams
2025-06-04  1:35                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-04  1:52                     ` Dan Williams
2025-06-04  1:54                       ` Dan Williams
2025-06-05 10:56                         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-07  1:56                           ` Dan Williams
2025-06-11  4:40                             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-13  3:06                               ` Dan Williams
2025-06-03 22:40             ` Dan Williams
2025-05-19 10:20   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-20 20:12     ` Dan Williams
2025-05-21  9:28       ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-26  8:08         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-29 14:20           ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-30  2:54             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-31 15:26               ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-02  4:51                 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-02 18:51                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-03 19:12         ` Dan Williams
2025-07-07  7:17     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-05-20  5:20   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-05-20 21:12     ` Dan Williams
2025-05-16  5:47 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] PCI/TSM: Add Guest TSM Support Dan Williams
2025-05-19 10:20   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-20 21:11     ` Dan Williams
2025-05-22  4:07       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-03 22:26         ` Dan Williams
2025-06-03 22:33           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-10  8:31           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-07-11 23:04             ` dan.j.williams
2025-05-20  9:25   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-05-20 21:27     ` Dan Williams
2025-05-20 11:00   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-05-20 21:31     ` Dan Williams
2025-06-03 19:07       ` Dan Williams
2025-05-21 15:03   ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-03 19:20     ` Dan Williams

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