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[47.55.120.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 6a1803df08f44-7077c9dfbbfsm22005316d6.13.2025.08.01.07.53.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 01 Aug 2025 07:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jgg by wakko with local (Exim 4.97) (envelope-from ) id 1uhr85-000000012WJ-2mLW; Fri, 01 Aug 2025 11:53:05 -0300 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2025 11:53:05 -0300 From: Jason Gunthorpe To: Suzuki K Poulose Cc: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" , linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, aik@amd.com, lukas@wunner.de, Samuel Ortiz , Xu Yilun , Steven Price , Catalin Marinas , Marc Zyngier , Will Deacon , Oliver Upton Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 04/38] tsm: Support DMA Allocation from private memory Message-ID: <20250801145305.GB26511@ziepe.ca> References: <20250728135216.48084-1-aneesh.kumar@kernel.org> <20250728135216.48084-5-aneesh.kumar@kernel.org> <20250728143318.GD26511@ziepe.ca> <20250729143339.GH26511@ziepe.ca> <20250731121740.GQ26511@ziepe.ca> <1388fb70-3d2d-4c41-9526-521cb75eb422@arm.com> <20250731164420.GW26511@ziepe.ca> <791e259b-3a57-487d-81ca-9d83f83ad685@arm.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-coco@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <791e259b-3a57-487d-81ca-9d83f83ad685@arm.com> On Fri, Aug 01, 2025 at 10:30:35AM +0100, Suzuki K Poulose wrote: > > Is there a reason not to just dump that into the T=0 SMMU using 1G > > huge pages and never touch it again? The GPT provides protection? > > That is possible, once we get guest_memfd mmap support merged upstream. > GPT does provide protection. The only caveat is, does the guest_memfd > support this at all ? i.e., shared->private transitions with a shared > mapping in place (Though this is in SMMU only, not the Host CPU > pagetables) I don't know, we haven't got to the guestmemfd/IOMMU integration yet, which is why I ask the questions. I think AMD and ARM would both be interested in guestmemfd <-> iommu working this way, at least. > I think we can go ahead with VMM pre-populating the entire DRAM > and keeping it pinned for DA. Rather than doing this from the > vfio kernel, it could be done by the VMM as it has better knowledge > of the populated contents and map the rest as "unmeasured" 0s. Yes, if done it should be done by the VMM and run through guestmemfd/kvm however that is agreed to. Jason