public inbox for linux-coco@lists.linux.dev
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	aik@amd.com, aneesh.kumar@kernel.org, yilun.xu@linux.intel.com,
	bhelgaas@google.com, alistair23@gmail.com, lukas@wunner.de,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Roman Kisel <romank@linux.microsoft.com>,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@rivosinc.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 03/19] device core: Introduce confidential device acceptance
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2026 16:28:00 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260326192800.GJ67624@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <69c57b745af0f_7ee31003@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch>

On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 11:31:16AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> [..]
> > > I assume this would also expect that encrypted MMIO mappings are also
> > > not established while trust is less than "TCB"? That would require some
> > > additional enabling to catch attempts to establish an encrypted mapping
> > > that the hardware is prepared for, but dev->trust is not, all without
> > > needing to modify the driver to worry about this difference. Drivers
> > > would just see ioremap() failure in this case.
> > 
> > Hmm.. I don't know if this matters. Once we decide to use the device
> > the MMIO should be mapped in the correct way, whatever that is.
> > 
> > If we decide to eventually allow a lower trust while T=1 then that
> > should be taken to mean the user wants all the features protecting the
> > communication channel but also all the IOMMU features restricting what
> > memory the device can access.
> 
> The question is whether any part of the kernel would ever track that
> secrets in MMIO writes should not be written to TCB-external devices...
> but that is probably a "trust=0" situation. "trust=1" means "be careful
> what you send to this device whether the transport is protected or not".

Right, the kernel has no idea what is secret or not, it is up to
userspace not to give the device secrets if it doesn't fully trust it.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-26 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-03  0:01 [PATCH v2 00/19] PCI/TSM: TEE I/O infrastructure Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 01/19] PCI/TSM: Report active IDE streams per host bridge Dan Williams
2026-03-09 16:36   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 02/19] device core: Fix kernel-doc warnings in base.h Dan Williams
2026-03-09 16:39   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-12 14:45     ` Greg KH
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 03/19] device core: Introduce confidential device acceptance Dan Williams
2026-03-09 16:42   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-12 14:44   ` Greg KH
2026-03-13  4:11     ` Dan Williams
2026-03-13 12:18       ` Greg KH
2026-03-13 18:53         ` Dan Williams
2026-03-13 19:07           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-13 13:32       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-13 19:56         ` Dan Williams
2026-03-13 20:24           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-14  1:32             ` Dan Williams
2026-03-23 18:14               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-24  2:18                 ` Dan Williams
2026-03-24 12:36                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-25  4:13                     ` Dan Williams
2026-03-25 11:56                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-26  1:27                         ` Dan Williams
2026-03-26 12:00                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-26 15:00                             ` Greg KH
2026-03-26 18:31                             ` Dan Williams
2026-03-26 19:28                               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 04/19] modules: Document the global async_probe parameter Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/19] device core: Autoprobe considered harmful? Dan Williams
2026-03-09 16:58   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/19] PCI/TSM: Add Device Security (TVM Guest) LOCK operation support Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/19] PCI/TSM: Add Device Security (TVM Guest) ACCEPT " Dan Williams
2026-03-03  7:15   ` Baolu Lu
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/19] PCI/TSM: Add "evidence" support Dan Williams
2026-03-03  3:14   ` kernel test robot
2026-03-03 10:16   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-03-03 16:38   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-03-13 10:07   ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-13 18:06     ` Dan Williams
2026-03-14 18:12   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-17  1:45     ` Dan Williams
2026-03-19  0:00       ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-20  2:50         ` Dan Williams
2026-03-17 18:14     ` Lukas Wunner
2026-03-18  7:56       ` Dan Williams
2026-03-23 18:18         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-14 18:37   ` Lukas Wunner
2026-03-16 20:13     ` Dan Williams
2026-03-16 23:02       ` Dan Williams
2026-03-17 14:13         ` Lukas Wunner
2026-03-18  7:22           ` Dan Williams
2026-03-17 18:24   ` Lukas Wunner
2026-03-18  7:41     ` Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/19] PCI/TSM: Support creating encrypted MMIO descriptors via TDISP Report Dan Williams
2026-03-04 17:14   ` dan.j.williams
2026-03-13  9:57     ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-05  4:46   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-03-13 10:23     ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-13 13:36       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-17  5:13         ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-24  3:26           ` Dan Williams
2026-03-24 12:38             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-16  5:19       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-03-23 18:20         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-26 23:38           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-03-27 11:49             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/19] x86, swiotlb: Teach swiotlb to skip "accepted" devices Dan Williams
2026-03-03  9:07   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-03-13 10:26     ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 11/19] x86, dma: Allow accepted devices to map private memory Dan Williams
2026-03-03  7:36   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-03-03  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 12/19] x86, ioremap, resource: Support IORES_DESC_ENCRYPTED for encrypted PCI MMIO Dan Williams
2026-03-19 15:34   ` Borislav Petkov
2026-03-03  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 13/19] samples/devsec: Introduce a PCI device-security bus + endpoint sample Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 14/19] samples/devsec: Add sample IDE establishment Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 15/19] samples/devsec: Add sample TSM bind and guest_request flows Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 16/19] samples/devsec: Introduce a "Device Security TSM" sample driver Dan Williams
2026-03-27  8:44   ` Lai, Yi
2026-03-03  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 17/19] tools/testing/devsec: Add a script to exercise samples/devsec/ Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 18/19] samples/devsec: Add evidence support Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 19/19] tools/testing/devsec: Add basic evidence retrieval validation Dan Williams
2026-03-03  9:23 ` [PATCH v2 00/19] PCI/TSM: TEE I/O infrastructure Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-03-03 22:01   ` dan.j.williams

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20260326192800.GJ67624@nvidia.com \
    --to=jgg@nvidia.com \
    --cc=aik@amd.com \
    --cc=alistair23@gmail.com \
    --cc=aneesh.kumar@kernel.org \
    --cc=bhelgaas@google.com \
    --cc=dakr@kernel.org \
    --cc=dan.j.williams@intel.com \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=hch@lst.de \
    --cc=linux-coco@lists.linux.dev \
    --cc=linux-pci@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=lukas@wunner.de \
    --cc=m.szyprowski@samsung.com \
    --cc=rafael@kernel.org \
    --cc=robin.murphy@arm.com \
    --cc=romank@linux.microsoft.com \
    --cc=sameo@rivosinc.com \
    --cc=yilun.xu@linux.intel.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox