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From: Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	sumit.semwal@linaro.org, benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com,
	Brian.Starkey@arm.com, jstultz@google.com, tjmercier@google.com,
	christian.koenig@amd.com, m.szyprowski@samsung.com,
	robin.murphy@arm.com, leon@kernel.org, sean.anderson@linux.dev,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com,
	steven.price@arm.com, thomas.lendacky@amd.com,
	john.allen@amd.com, ashish.kalra@amd.com,
	suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/2] dma-mapping: introduce DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED for shared memory
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 09:51:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260422095104.1b3c4132@mordecai> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260421121004.GA3611611@ziepe.ca>

On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 09:10:04 -0300
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 01:53:31PM +0200, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> > >> You reach there when is_swiotlb_force_bounce(dev) is true and
> > >> DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED is set. What am I missing?
> > >>  
> > >
> > >So a swiotlb_force_bounce will not use swiotlb bouncing if
> > >DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED is set ?   
> > 
> > Correct. Bouncing does not make sense in this case, as shared memory is
> > already being mapped.  
> 
> It is a little bit mangled, there are many reasons force_swiotlb can
> be set, but we loose them as it flows through - swiotlb_init()
> just has a simple SWIOTLB_FORCE
> 
> Ideally DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED would skip swiotlb only if it is being
> selected for CC reasons. For instance if you have the swiotlb force
> command line parameter I would still expect it bounce shared memory.
> 
> Arguably I think this arch flow is misdesigned, the
> is_swiotlb_force_bounce() should not be used for CC. dma_capable() is
> the correct API to check if the device can DMA to the presented
> address, and it will trigger swiotlb_map() just the same without
> creating this gap.

Seconded.

Then again, the whole DMA mapping logic is extremely convoluted, with
dmaops, direct, CMA, and swiotlb, so I'm no longer sure there is one
undisputable way where CC shared mappings should be added to the mix.

Has anyone considered a cleaner design yet? If yes, I'm volunteering to
help implement it. If not, then please ignore me as a random rant.

Petr T

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-22  7:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2026-03-25 19:23 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] dma-buf: heaps: system: add an option to allocate explicitly shared/decrypted memory Jiri Pirko
2026-03-25 19:23   ` [PATCH v5 1/2] dma-mapping: introduce DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED for shared memory Jiri Pirko
2026-03-31 15:08     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-20  6:34     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-04-20  9:29       ` Jiri Pirko
2026-04-21  9:42         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-04-21 11:53           ` Jiri Pirko
2026-04-21 12:10             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-22  7:51               ` Petr Tesarik [this message]
2026-04-22  9:18               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-04-24 22:55                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-26 13:05                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-25 19:23   ` [PATCH v5 2/2] dma-buf: heaps: system: add system_cc_shared heap for explicitly " Jiri Pirko
2026-03-27 19:43     ` T.J. Mercier
2026-03-31 15:08     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-02 12:23     ` Maxime Ripard
2026-04-02 12:56       ` Jiri Pirko
2026-03-27  9:38   ` [PATCH v5 0/2] dma-buf: heaps: system: add an option to allocate explicitly shared/decrypted memory Marek Szyprowski
2026-03-27 12:10     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-27 19:43       ` T.J. Mercier
2026-04-02  4:41   ` Sumit Semwal
2026-04-02  5:35     ` Marek Szyprowski
2026-04-02  9:52   ` Brian Starkey
2026-04-02 12:02     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-02 12:58       ` Jiri Pirko

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