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From: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
To: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@arm.com>,
	Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gankulkarni@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>,
	Shanker Donthineni <sdonthineni@nvidia.com>,
	Alper Gun <alpergun@google.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	Emi Kisanuki <fj0570is@fujitsu.com>,
	Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 21/48] arm64: RMI: Handle RMI_EXIT_RIPAS_CHANGE
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2026 16:12:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3845a15c-46d4-41c6-b645-8fbbead34761@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59c83ace-c8be-4c71-99b6-cd5f085a3063@arm.com>

On 20/03/2026 11:15, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
> Hi Steven
> 
> On 18/03/2026 15:53, Steven Price wrote:
>> The guest can request that a region of it's protected address space is
>> switched between RIPAS_RAM and RIPAS_EMPTY (and back) using
>> RSI_IPA_STATE_SET. This causes a guest exit with the
>> RMI_EXIT_RIPAS_CHANGE code. We treat this as a request to convert a
>> protected region to unprotected (or back), exiting to the VMM to make
>> the necessary changes to the guest_memfd and memslot mappings. On the
>> next entry the RIPAS changes are committed by making RMI_RTT_SET_RIPAS
>> calls.
>>
>> The VMM may wish to reject the RIPAS change requested by the guest. For
>> now it can only do this by no longer scheduling the VCPU as we don't
>> currently have a usecase for returning that rejection to the guest, but
>> by postponing the RMI_RTT_SET_RIPAS changes to entry we leave the door
>> open for adding a new ioctl in the future for this purpose.
> 
> I have been thinking about this. Today we do a KVM_MEMORY_FAULT_EXIT
> to the VMM to handle the request. The other option is to make this
> a KVM_EXIT_HYPERCALL with SMC_RSI_SET_RIPAS. But this would leak RSI
> implementation to the VMM. The advantage is that the VMM can provide
> a clear response RSI_ACCEPT vs RSI_REJECT (including accepting a partial
> range) and KVM can satisfy the RMI_RTT_SET_RIPAS.

Faking up hypercalls based on a very narrow interface seems like a bad
API design. The guest is of course perfectly allowed to have another
interface directly to the VMM to communicate intent.

> We may end up doing something similar for Device assignment too, where
> the VMM gets a chance to reject any inconsistent device mappings.
> 
> Like you mentioned, the VMM can stop the Realm today as an alternate
> approach.
The intention here is that we start with a very basic interface and can
then extend it when we work out how to handle rejection. The ordering in
the kernel is explicitly to allow that extension. I get the impression
that device assignment has a much better justification for handling the
reject flow so it's probably best to leave that until device assignment
is implemented.

Thanks,
Steve


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-10 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-18 15:53 [PATCH v13 00/48] arm64: Support for Arm CCA in KVM Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 01/48] kvm: arm64: Include kvm_emulate.h in kvm/arm_psci.h Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 02/48] kvm: arm64: Avoid including linux/kvm_host.h in kvm_pgtable.h Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 03/48] arm64: RME: Handle Granule Protection Faults (GPFs) Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 04/48] arm64: RMI: Add SMC definitions for calling the RMM Steven Price
2026-03-18 16:07   ` Joey Gouly
2026-03-18 17:07     ` Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 05/48] arm64: RMI: Temporarily add SMCs from RMM v1.0 spec Steven Price
2026-03-21 13:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-23 10:30     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 06/48] arm64: RMI: Add wrappers for RMI calls Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 07/48] arm64: RMI: Check for RMI support at KVM init Steven Price
2026-03-19 10:38   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-19 12:47     ` Steven Price
2026-03-19 16:17   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-03-19 16:42     ` Steven Price
2026-03-19 18:05   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-03-20 16:01     ` Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 08/48] arm64: RMI: Configure the RMM with the host's page size Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 09/48] arm64: RMI: Check for LPA2 support Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 10/48] arm64: RMI: Ensure that the RMM has GPT entries for memory Steven Price
2026-03-19 10:31   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-19 15:20     ` Steven Price
2026-03-19 10:41   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-30 20:58   ` Mathieu Poirier
2026-03-31 11:05     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-31 17:43       ` Mathieu Poirier
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 11/48] arm64: RMI: Define the user ABI Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 12/48] arm64: RMI: Basic infrastructure for creating a realm Steven Price
2026-03-19 16:11   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-03-19 16:24     ` Steven Price
2026-03-19 17:17   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-03-20 16:07     ` Steven Price
2026-03-21 16:34   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-04-01 10:54     ` Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 13/48] kvm: arm64: Don't expose unsupported capabilities for realm guests Steven Price
2026-03-19 14:09   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-19 15:25     ` Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 14/48] KVM: arm64: Allow passing machine type in KVM creation Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 15/48] arm64: RMI: RTT tear down Steven Price
2026-03-19 17:35   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-03-20 16:12     ` Steven Price
2026-03-21 13:04       ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-04-10 15:11         ` Steven Price
2026-03-20 10:37   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-20 16:14     ` Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 16/48] arm64: RMI: Activate realm on first VCPU run Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 17/48] arm64: RMI: Allocate/free RECs to match vCPUs Steven Price
2026-03-19 18:10   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-03-20 16:26     ` Steven Price
2026-03-23 11:56   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 18/48] arm64: RMI: Support for the VGIC in realms Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 19/48] KVM: arm64: Support timers in realm RECs Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 20/48] arm64: RMI: Handle realm enter/exit Steven Price
2026-03-20 14:08   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-20 16:32     ` Steven Price
2026-03-23 10:03       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-04-10 15:11         ` Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 21/48] arm64: RMI: Handle RMI_EXIT_RIPAS_CHANGE Steven Price
2026-03-20 11:15   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-04-10 15:12     ` Steven Price [this message]
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 22/48] KVM: arm64: Handle realm MMIO emulation Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 23/48] KVM: arm64: Expose support for private memory Steven Price
2026-03-19 19:01   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-03-20 16:39     ` Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 24/48] arm64: RMI: Allow populating initial contents Steven Price
2026-03-23 11:32   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-04-10 15:12     ` Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 25/48] arm64: RMI: Set RIPAS of initial memslots Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 26/48] arm64: RMI: Create the realm descriptor Steven Price
2026-03-19 18:25   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-03-20 16:41     ` Steven Price
2026-03-21 16:20       ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 27/48] arm64: RMI: Runtime faulting of memory Steven Price
2026-03-19 18:41   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-03-20 16:44     ` Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 28/48] KVM: arm64: Handle realm VCPU load Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 29/48] KVM: arm64: Validate register access for a Realm VM Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 30/48] KVM: arm64: Handle Realm PSCI requests Steven Price
2026-03-30 10:36   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 31/48] KVM: arm64: WARN on injected undef exceptions Steven Price
2026-03-30 10:50   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 32/48] arm64: Don't expose stolen time for realm guests Steven Price
2026-03-30 10:52   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-04-10 15:12     ` Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 33/48] arm64: RMI: allow userspace to inject aborts Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 34/48] arm64: RMI: support RSI_HOST_CALL Steven Price
2026-03-30 10:58   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-18 15:53 ` [PATCH v13 35/48] arm64: RMI: Allow checking SVE on VM instance Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:54 ` [PATCH v13 36/48] arm64: RMI: Always use 4k pages for realms Steven Price
2026-03-19 10:24   ` Joey Gouly
2026-03-19 16:02     ` Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:54 ` [PATCH v13 37/48] arm64: RMI: Prevent Device mappings for Realms Steven Price
2026-03-19 10:27   ` Joey Gouly
2026-04-10 15:12     ` Steven Price
2026-03-19 18:46   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-03-20 16:45     ` Steven Price
2026-03-21 16:23       ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-03-18 15:54 ` [PATCH v13 38/48] arm64: RMI: Enable PMU support with a realm guest Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:54 ` [PATCH v13 39/48] arm64: RMI: Propagate number of breakpoints and watchpoints to userspace Steven Price
2026-03-19 18:50   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-03-20 16:45     ` Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:54 ` [PATCH v13 40/48] arm64: RMI: Set breakpoint parameters through SET_ONE_REG Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:54 ` [PATCH v13 41/48] arm64: RMI: Initialize PMCR.N with number counter supported by RMM Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:54 ` [PATCH v13 42/48] arm64: RMI: Propagate max SVE vector length from RMM Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:54 ` [PATCH v13 43/48] arm64: RMI: Configure max SVE vector length for a Realm Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:54 ` [PATCH v13 44/48] arm64: RMI: Provide register list for unfinalized RMI RECs Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:54 ` [PATCH v13 45/48] arm64: RMI: Provide accurate register list Steven Price
2026-03-19 18:53   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-03-20 16:45     ` Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:54 ` [PATCH v13 46/48] KVM: arm64: Expose KVM_ARM_VCPU_REC to user space Steven Price
2026-03-19 17:36   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-04-10 15:12     ` Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:54 ` [PATCH v13 47/48] arm64: RMI: Enable realms to be created Steven Price
2026-03-18 15:54 ` [PATCH v13 48/48] [WIP] arm64: RMI: Add support for SRO Steven Price
2026-03-18 16:53 ` [PATCH v13 00/48] arm64: Support for Arm CCA in KVM Steven Price
2026-03-19 23:02 ` Mathieu Poirier
2026-03-20 16:45   ` Steven Price
2026-03-20 19:15     ` Mathieu Poirier
2026-03-25  6:37     ` Gavin Shan
2026-03-25 10:16       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-25 11:32         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-26  0:48         ` Gavin Shan
2026-03-26 11:22           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-25  4:07 ` Gavin Shan
2026-03-25 10:19   ` Suzuki K Poulose

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