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From: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Rick P Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"kas@kernel.org" <kas@kernel.org>,
	Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-coco@lists.linux.dev" <linux-coco@lists.linux.dev>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yan Y Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	wenlong hou <houwenlong.hwl@antgroup.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/4] KVM: TDX: Synchronize user-return MSRs immediately after VP.ENTER
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2025 19:36:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4841c40b-47b0-4b1b-985f-d1a16cbe81fa@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aPehbDzbMHZTEtMa@google.com>

On 21/10/2025 18:06, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2025, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>> On 21/10/2025 01:55, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
>>>> +	 * Several of KVM's user-return MSRs are clobbered by the TDX-Module if
>>>> +	 * VP.ENTER succeeds, i.e. on TD-Exit.  Mark those MSRs as needing an
>>>> +	 * update to synchronize the "current" value in KVM's cache with the
>>>> +	 * value in hardware (loaded by the TDX-Module).
>>>> +	 */
>>>
>>> I think we should be synchronizing only after a successful VP.ENTER with a real
>>> TD exit, but today instead we synchronize after any attempt to VP.ENTER.
> 
> Well this is all completely @#($*#.  Looking at the TDX-Module source, if the
> TDX-Module synthesizes an exit, e.g. because it suspects a zero-step attack, it
> will signal a "normal" exit but not "restore" VMM state.
> 
>> If the MSR's do not get clobbered, does it matter whether or not they get
>> restored.
> 
> It matters because KVM needs to know the actual value in hardware.  If KVM thinks
> an MSR is 'X', but it's actually 'Y', then KVM could fail to write the correct
> value into hardware when returning to userspace and/or when running a different
> vCPU.

I don't quite follow:  if an MSR does not get clobbered, where does the
incorrect value come from?

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-21 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-16 22:28 [PATCH v4 0/4] KVM: x86: User-return MSR cleanups Sean Christopherson
2025-10-16 22:28 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] KVM: TDX: Synchronize user-return MSRs immediately after VP.ENTER Sean Christopherson
2025-10-20 22:55   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-10-21 13:37     ` Adrian Hunter
2025-10-21 15:06       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-21 16:36         ` Adrian Hunter [this message]
2025-10-21 16:46           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-21 18:54         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-10-21 19:33           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-21 20:49             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-10-23  5:59             ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-10-16 22:28 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] KVM: x86: Leave user-return notifier registered on reboot/shutdown Sean Christopherson
2025-10-17  5:32   ` Chao Gao
2025-10-17 15:27     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-16 22:28 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] KVM: x86: Don't disable IRQs when unregistering user-return notifier Sean Christopherson
2025-10-16 22:28 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] KVM: x86: Drop "cache" from user return MSR setter that skips WRMSR Sean Christopherson
2025-10-17  2:52   ` Chao Gao

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