From: Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan <sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Samuel Ortiz <sameo@rivosinc.com>
Cc: linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 3/4] tsm: Allow for mapping RTMRs to TCG TPM PCRs
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2024 19:35:30 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5539c533-37b2-4b12-a5c5-056881cf8e3c@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <65a72c305291f_3b8e29484@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch>
On 1/16/24 5:24 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
> Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan wrote:
>> On 1/14/24 2:35 PM, Samuel Ortiz wrote:
>>> Many user space and internal kernel subsystems (e.g. the Linux IMA)
>>> expect a Root of Trust for Storage (RTS) that allows for extending
>>> and reading measurement registers that are compatible with the TCG TPM
>>> PCRs layout, e.g. a TPM. In order to allow those components to
>>> alternatively use a platform TSM as their RTS, a TVM could map the
>>> available RTMRs to one or more TCG TPM PCRs. Once configured, those PCR
>>> to RTMR mappings give the kernel TSM layer all the necessary information
>>> to be a RTS for e.g. the Linux IMA or any other components that expects
>>> a TCG compliant TPM PCRs layout.
>>>
>>> TPM PCR mappings are configured through configfs:
>>>
>>> // Create and configure 2 RTMRs
>>> mkdir /sys/kernel/config/tsm/rtmrs/rtmr0
>>> mkdir /sys/kernel/config/tsm/rtmrs/rtmr1
>>> echo 0 > /sys/kernel/config/tsm/rtmrs/rtmr0/index
>>> echo 1 > /sys/kernel/config/tsm/rtmrs/rtmr1/index
>>>
>>> // Map RTMR 0 to PCRs 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8
>>> echo 4-8 > /sys/kernel/config/tsm/rtmrs/rtmr0/tcg_map
>>>
>>> // Map RTMR 1 to PCRs 16, 17 and 18
>>> echo 16-18 > /sys/kernel/config/tsm/rtmrs/rtmr1/tcg_map
>> Any information on how this mapping will be used by TPM or IMA ?
>>
>> RTMR to PCR mapping is fixed by design, right? If yes, why allow
>> user to configure it. We can let vendor drivers to configure it, right?
> I assume the "vendor driver", that publishes the RTMR to the tsm-core,
> has no idea whether they will be used for PCR emulation, or not. The TPM
> proxy layer sitting on top of this would know the mapping of which RTMRs
> are recording a transcript of which PCR extend events.
My thinking is, since this mapping is ARCH-specific information
and fixed by design, it makes more sense to hide this detail in the
vendor driver than letting userspace configure it. If we allow users to
configure it, there is a chance for incorrect mapping.
Regarding the TPM proxy, I am still not clear how it is going to use
this mapping. If we want to provide TPM like feature, it needs a
special kernel TPM driver, right? Even if we enable TPM support
with RTMR, I assume it can only support pcr_extend(). Other TPM
features should be disabled. If yes, since we already have this ABI
for measurement extension, why again support it via TPM or did
I misunderstand the use case.
>
> For IMA the situation is different because that can be a kernel internal
> configuration flow without need to involve userspace.
>
--
Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
Linux Kernel Developer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-17 3:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-14 22:35 [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] tsm: Runtime measurement registers ABI Samuel Ortiz
2024-01-14 22:35 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] tsm: Runtime measurement register support Samuel Ortiz
2024-01-14 22:35 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/4] tsm: Add RTMRs to the configfs-tsm hierarchy Samuel Ortiz
2024-01-14 22:35 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/4] tsm: Allow for mapping RTMRs to TCG TPM PCRs Samuel Ortiz
2024-01-16 22:28 ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2024-01-17 1:24 ` Dan Williams
2024-01-17 3:35 ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan [this message]
2024-01-21 16:31 ` Samuel Ortiz
2024-01-22 2:13 ` Qinkun Bao
2024-01-22 2:23 ` Yao, Jiewen
2024-01-22 7:49 ` Samuel Ortiz
2024-01-22 20:10 ` Dan Williams
2024-01-22 21:58 ` Xing, Cedric
2024-01-22 22:32 ` Dan Williams
2024-01-23 18:48 ` Xing, Cedric
2024-01-23 19:14 ` Dan Williams
2024-01-23 20:59 ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2024-01-26 16:55 ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2024-01-23 1:22 ` Yao, Jiewen
[not found] ` <90EDEF2B-DB43-413F-840E-3268977FDBD0@google.com>
2024-01-22 7:46 ` Samuel Ortiz
2024-01-22 15:04 ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2024-01-22 22:12 ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2024-01-14 22:35 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/4] tsm: Allow for extending and reading configured RTMRs Samuel Ortiz
2024-01-16 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] tsm: Runtime measurement registers ABI Dan Williams
2024-01-18 3:35 ` biao.lu
2024-01-18 17:42 ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2024-01-18 19:20 ` Dan Williams
2024-01-21 18:11 ` Samuel Ortiz
2024-01-21 19:15 ` Dan Williams
2024-01-22 22:12 ` Xing, Cedric
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