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From: "Moger, Babu" <bmoger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/16] fs,x86/resctrl: Add kernel-mode (e.g., PLZA) support to the resctrl subsystem
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2026 17:52:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57ffcf0e-a59b-4069-86b1-88bea6554028@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68a551ea-d9f0-436a-9bef-e35fd027bb95@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,

On 4/9/2026 10:41 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
> 
> On 4/9/26 4:42 PM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>> Hi Reinette,
>>
>> On 4/9/2026 3:50 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>> Hi Babu,
>>>
>>> On 4/9/26 11:05 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>>> On 4/9/2026 12:26 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>>>> On 4/9/26 10:19 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/8/2026 6:41 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> When the user switches to either "global_assign_ctrl_inherit_mon_per_cpu" or
>>>>>>> 'global_assign_ctrl_assign_mon_per_cpu" then "info/kernel_mode_assignment" is created
>>>>>>> (or made visible to user space) and is expected to point to default group.
>>>>>>> User can change the group using "info/kernel_mode_assignment" at this point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the current scenario is below ...
>>>>>>>        # cat info/kernel_mode
>>>>>>>        [global_assign_ctrl_inherit_mon_per_cpu]
>>>>>>>        inherit_ctrl_and_mon
>>>>>>>        global_assign_ctrl_assign_mon_per_cpu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ... then "info/kernel_mode_assignment" will exist but what it should contain if
>>>>>>> user switches mode at this point may be up for discussion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> option 1)
>>>>>>> When user switches mode to "global_assign_ctrl_assign_mon_per_cpu" then
>>>>>>> the resource group in "info/kernel_mode_assignment" is reset to the
>>>>>>> default group and all CPUs PLZA state reset to match. The kernel_mode_cpus
>>>>>>> and kernel_mode_cpuslist files become visible in default resource group
>>>>>>> and they contain "all online CPUs".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> option 2)
>>>>>>> When user switches mode to "global_assign_ctrl_assign_mon_per_cpu" then
>>>>>>> the resource group in "info/kernel_mode_assignment" is kept and all
>>>>>>> CPUs PLZA state set to match it while also keeping the current
>>>>>>> values of that resource group's kernel_mode_cpus and kernel_mode_cpuslist
>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am leaning towards "option 1" to keep it consistent with a switch from
>>>>>>> "inherit_ctrl_and_mon" and being deterministic about how a mode is started with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. The "option 1" seems appropriate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a clean slate. What are your thoughts? What would be use case where a user would
>>>>>>> want to switch between "global_assign_ctrl_inherit_mon_per_cpu" and
>>>>>>> "global_assign_ctrl_assign_mon_per_cpu" to just switch rmid_en on and off?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a bit tricky.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently, our requirement is to have a CTRL_MON group for
>>>>>> global_assign_ctrl_inherit_mon_per_cpu. In this scenario, we use the
>>>>>> group’s CLOSID for PLZA configuration, and RMID is not used (rmid_en
>>>>>> = 0) when setting up PLZA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our requirement is also to have a CTRL_MON/MON group for
>>>>>> global_assign_ctrl_assign_mon_per_cpu. In this case as well, the
>>>>>> group’s CLOSID and RMID (rmid_en = 1)  both are used configure PLZA.
>>>>>
>>>>> ah, right. Good catch.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, we should not allow these changes from
>>>>>> global_assign_ctrl_inherit_mon_per_cpu  to
>>>>>> global_assign_ctrl_assign_mon_per_cpu or visa versa.
>>>>>
>>>>> resctrl could allow it but as part of the switch it resets the "kernel mode group" to
>>>>> be the default group every time? This would be the "option 1" above.
>>>>
>>>> Other options.
>>>>
>>>> Allow global_assign_ctrl_inherit_mon_per_cpu -> global_assign_ctrl_assign_mon_per_cpu. As part of the switch, reset the "kernel mode group" to the default group.
>>>>
>>>> Allow global_assign_ctrl_assign_mon_per_cpu -> global_assign_ctrl_inherit_mon_per_cpu. In this case switch
>>>> to CTRL_MON/MON -> CTRL_MON.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ok. Could you please return the courtesy of providing feedback on the
>>> suggestion you are responding to and also include the motivation why your
>>> suggestion is the better option?
>>
>> Yea. Sure.
>>
>> We need to allow the switch between the modes. Otherwise only way to reset is to remount the resctrl filesystem. That is not a good option.
>>
>> Allow global_assign_ctrl_inherit_mon_per_cpu -> global_assign_ctrl_assign_mon_per_cpu. As part of the switch, reset the "kernel mode group" to the default group.
>>
>> This option is same as you suggested.
>>
>> Allow global_assign_ctrl_assign_mon_per_cpu -> global_assign_ctrl_inherit_mon_per_cpu. In this case switch
>> to CTRL_MON/MON -> CTRL_MON. This option basically disables monitor (rmid_en=0). It is less disruptive. Move is between child group to parent group.
> 
> ok. I am concerned that this creates an inconsistent interface. Specifically, sometimes
> when switching the mode the kernel group will reset and sometimes it won't. This inconsistency
> may be more apparent when writing the user documentation as part of this work. If you are
> able to clearly explain how this resctrl fs interface behaves (this cannot be about PLZA
> internals as above) then this could work.
> 

Yes, certainly. I’ll begin work on v3, and we can continue refining it 
as we move forward.

Thanks
Babu

      reply	other threads:[~2026-04-10 22:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-12 20:36 [PATCH v2 00/16] fs,x86/resctrl: Add kernel-mode (e.g., PLZA) support to the resctrl subsystem Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] fs/resctrl: Add kernel mode (kmode) data structures and arch hook Babu Moger
2026-03-24 22:51   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-03-26 18:41     ` Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] fs, x86/resctrl: Add architecture routines for kernel mode initialization Babu Moger
2026-03-24 22:53   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-03-26 19:10     ` Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] fs/resctrl: Add info/kernel_mode file to show kernel mode options Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] x86/resctrl: Support Privilege-Level Zero Association (PLZA) Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] x86/resctrl: Initialize supported kernel modes when CPUID reports PLZA Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] resctrl: Introduce kmode static key enable/disable helpers Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for PLZA configuration Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] x86/resctrl: Add per-CPU and per-task kernel mode state Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] x86,fs/resctrl: Add the functionality to configure PLZA Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] x86/resctrl: Add PLZA state tracking and context switch handling Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] fs/resctrl: Add write handler for info/kernel_mode Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] fs/resctrl: Add info/kernel_mode_assignment to show kernel-mode rdtgroup Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] fs/resctrl: Add write interface for kernel_mode_assignment Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] fs/resctrl: Update kmode configuration when cpu_mask changes Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:37 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] x86/resctrl: Refactor show_rdt_tasks() to support PLZA tasks Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:37 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] fs/resctrl: Add per-task kmode enable support via rdtgroup Babu Moger
2026-03-24  6:15 ` [PATCH v2 00/16] fs,x86/resctrl: Add kernel-mode (e.g., PLZA) support to the resctrl subsystem Askar Safin
2026-03-24 22:51 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-03-26 17:12   ` Babu Moger
2026-03-27 22:11     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-03-30 18:46       ` Babu Moger
2026-03-31 22:24         ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-06 22:45           ` Babu Moger
2026-04-07 17:48             ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-08  1:01               ` Babu Moger
2026-04-08  4:45                 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-08 20:45                   ` Babu Moger
2026-04-08 21:24                     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-08 23:07                       ` Moger, Babu
2026-04-08 23:41                         ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-09 17:19                           ` Moger, Babu
2026-04-09 17:26                             ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-09 18:05                               ` Moger, Babu
2026-04-09 20:50                                 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-09 23:42                                   ` Moger, Babu
2026-04-10  3:41                                     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-10 22:52                                       ` Moger, Babu [this message]

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