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From: <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>, <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>, <linux-coco@lists.linux.dev>,
	<x86@kernel.org>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, <seanjc@google.com>,
	<pbonzini@redhat.com>, <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	<kirill.shutemov@intel.com>, <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	<kai.huang@intel.com>, <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>,
	<elena.reshetova@intel.com>, <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Farrah Chen <farrah.chen@intel.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 07/20] x86/virt/tdx: Expose SEAMLDR information via sysfs
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2025 08:24:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <688cdc169163a_32afb100b3@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aIwhUb3z9/cgsMwb@yilunxu-OptiPlex-7050>

Xu Yilun wrote:
[..]
> > > diff --git a/drivers/virt/coco/tdx-tsm/Makefile b/drivers/virt/coco/tdx-tsm/Makefile
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 000000000000..09f0ac08988a
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/drivers/virt/coco/tdx-tsm/Makefile
> > > @@ -0,0 +1 @@
> > > +obj-$(CONFIG_TDX_TSM_BUS) += tdx-tsm-bus.o
> > 
> > Just name it bus.c.
> 
> I'm about to make the change but I see there is already tdx-guest misc
> virtual device in Guest OS:
> 
>   What:		/sys/devices/virtual/misc/tdx_guest/xxxx
> 
> And if we add another tdx_subsys, we have:
> 
>   What:		/sys/devices/virtual/tdx/xxxx
> 
> Do we really want 2 virtual devices? What's their relationship? I can't
> figure out.
> 
> So I'm considering reuse the misc/tdx_guest device as a tdx root device
> in guest. And that removes the need to have a common tdx tsm bus.
> 
> What do you think?

True, do not need tdx_subsys on the guest side. The tdx_guest driver
is sufficient. This was the approach taken with the RTMR enabling, just
append the sysfs attributes to the existing guest device.

> > > And put the tdx_subsys_init() in tdx-tsm-bus.c. We need to move host
> > > specific initializations out of tdx_subsys_init(), e.g. seamldr_group &
> > > seamldr fw upload.
> > 
> > Just to be clear on the plan here as I think this TD Preserving set
> > should land before we start upstreamming any TDX Connect bits.
> > 
> > - Create drivers/virt/coco/tdx-tsm/bus.c for registering the tdx_subsys.
> >   The tdx_subsys has sysfs attributes like "version" (host and guest
> >   need this, but have different calls to get at the information) and
> >   "firmware" (only host needs that). So the common code will take sysfs
> >   groups passed as a parameter.
> > 
> > - The "tdx_tsm" device which is unused in this patch set can be
> 
> It is used in this patch, Chao creates tdx module 'version' attr on this
> device. But I assume you have different opinion: tdx_subsys represents
> the whole tdx_module and should have the 'version', and tdx_tsm is a
> sub device dedicate for TDX Connect, is it?

The main reason for a tdx_tsm device in addition to the subsys is to
allow for deferred attachment.

Now, that said, the faux_device infrastructure has arrived since this
all started and *could* replace tdx_subsys. The only concern is whether
the tdx_tsm driver ever needs to do probe deferral to wait for IOMMU or
PCI initialization to happen first.

If probe deferral is needed that requires a bus, if probe can always be
synchronous with TDX module init then faux_device could work.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-01 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-23  9:52 [RFC PATCH 00/20] TD-Preserving updates Chao Gao
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 01/20] x86/virt/tdx: Print SEAMCALL leaf numbers in decimal Chao Gao
2025-06-02 23:44   ` Huang, Kai
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 02/20] x86/virt/tdx: Prepare to support P-SEAMLDR SEAMCALLs Chao Gao
2025-06-04 12:22   ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-04 13:14     ` Chao Gao
2025-06-05  0:14       ` Huang, Kai
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 03/20] x86/virt/seamldr: Introduce a wrapper for " Chao Gao
2025-06-03 11:22   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-06-09  7:53     ` Chao Gao
2025-06-09  8:02       ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-06-10  1:03         ` Chao Gao
2025-06-10  6:52           ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-06-10 15:02             ` Dave Hansen
2025-07-11 13:59   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-14  9:21     ` Chao Gao
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 04/20] x86/virt/tdx: Introduce a "tdx" subsystem and "tsm" device Chao Gao
2025-06-02 23:44   ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-05  8:34     ` Chao Gao
2025-07-31 20:17       ` dan.j.williams
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 05/20] x86/virt/tdx: Export tdx module attributes via sysfs Chao Gao
2025-06-02 23:49   ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-10  1:37     ` Chao Gao
2025-06-11  2:09       ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-11  7:45         ` Chao Gao
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 06/20] x86/virt/seamldr: Add a helper to read P-SEAMLDR information Chao Gao
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 07/20] x86/virt/tdx: Expose SEAMLDR information via sysfs Chao Gao
2025-07-29  4:55   ` Xu Yilun
2025-07-29 10:00     ` Chao Gao
2025-07-31 21:01     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-01  2:07       ` Xu Yilun
2025-08-01 15:24         ` dan.j.williams [this message]
2025-08-04  7:00           ` Xu Yilun
2025-08-05  0:17             ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-05  0:47               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-05  4:02                 ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-05 13:49                   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 16:33                     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-06  3:03                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 08/20] x86/virt/seamldr: Implement FW_UPLOAD sysfs ABI for TD-Preserving Updates Chao Gao
2025-06-16 22:55   ` Sagi Shahar
2025-06-17  7:55     ` Chao Gao
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 09/20] x86/virt/seamldr: Allocate and populate a module update request Chao Gao
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 10/20] x86/virt/seamldr: Introduce skeleton for TD-Preserving updates Chao Gao
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 11/20] x86/virt/seamldr: Abort updates if errors occurred midway Chao Gao
2025-06-03 12:04   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-06-09  2:37     ` Chao Gao
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 12/20] x86/virt/seamldr: Shut down the current TDX module Chao Gao
2025-06-03 12:36   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-06-09  2:10     ` Chao Gao
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 13/20] x86/virt/tdx: Reset software states after TDX module shutdown Chao Gao
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 14/20] x86/virt/seamldr: Install a new TDX module Chao Gao
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 15/20] x86/virt/seamldr: Handle TD-Preserving update failures Chao Gao
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 16/20] x86/virt/seamldr: Do TDX cpu init after updates Chao Gao
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 17/20] x86/virt/tdx: Establish contexts for the new module Chao Gao
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 18/20] x86/virt/tdx: Update tdx_sysinfo and check features post-update Chao Gao
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 19/20] x86/virt/seamldr: Verify availability of slots for TD-Preserving updates Chao Gao
2025-05-23  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH 20/20] x86/virt/seamldr: Enable TD-Preserving Updates Chao Gao
2025-06-11 19:56 ` [RFC PATCH 00/20] TD-Preserving updates Sagi Shahar
2025-07-11  8:04 ` Chao Gao
2025-07-11 14:06   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-14 10:26     ` Chao Gao
2025-07-15  0:21   ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-07-16  7:30     ` Chao Gao

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