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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: <linux-coco@lists.linux.dev>, <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, <aik@amd.com>,
	<aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>, <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
	<bhelgaas@google.com>, <alistair23@gmail.com>, <lukas@wunner.de>,
	<jgg@nvidia.com>, Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/19] PCI/TSM: Add "evidence" support
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2026 19:50:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <69bcb5f1412cc_40c0100ac@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260318170014.6650d2bf@kernel.org>

Jakub Kicinski wrote:
[..] 
> > > The main strength of Netlink is "do" commands with multiple optional
> > > attrs.  
> > 
> > Yes, that is attractive and saves a pile of bug prone ioctl handling.
> > 
> > The gap I need to fill first though is a uAPI that allows for large
> > blobs to be fetched after being regenerated / reformatted besed on some
> > input attributes.
> > 
> > "Multi message netlink attributes" while inventive, feels less awkward
> > and more future proof than a sysfs binary attribute scheme to do the
> > same.
> 
> Alright, so to make this more Netlink-y you can either:
>  - delete the F_MULTI and replicate other attrs in each message and 
>    add an offset attr; this will make each message in the dump more
>    standalone. 
>  - keep the F_MULTI but object_val has to be a multi-attr, and then 
>    we have to teach YNL to correctly append the attrs.
> 
> Former is definitely less work. Latter could end up being cleaner
> but there are some unknowns so hard to tell for sure; more plumbing.

Makes sense, and not yet sure which one is lower maintenance burden
long term. I will play with it a bit.

I am leaning to the first option more for the fact that it puts the
burden of being strange squarely on the implementation that wants it. If
this discussion attracts more large blob dumpers then the second option.

Thanks for spending some attention here.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-20  2:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-03  0:01 [PATCH v2 00/19] PCI/TSM: TEE I/O infrastructure Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 01/19] PCI/TSM: Report active IDE streams per host bridge Dan Williams
2026-03-09 16:36   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 02/19] device core: Fix kernel-doc warnings in base.h Dan Williams
2026-03-09 16:39   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-12 14:45     ` Greg KH
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 03/19] device core: Introduce confidential device acceptance Dan Williams
2026-03-09 16:42   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-12 14:44   ` Greg KH
2026-03-13  4:11     ` Dan Williams
2026-03-13 12:18       ` Greg KH
2026-03-13 18:53         ` Dan Williams
2026-03-13 19:07           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-13 13:32       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-13 19:56         ` Dan Williams
2026-03-13 20:24           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-14  1:32             ` Dan Williams
2026-03-23 18:14               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-24  2:18                 ` Dan Williams
2026-03-24 12:36                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-25  4:13                     ` Dan Williams
2026-03-25 11:56                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-26  1:27                         ` Dan Williams
2026-03-26 12:00                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-26 15:00                             ` Greg KH
2026-03-26 18:31                             ` Dan Williams
2026-03-26 19:28                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 04/19] modules: Document the global async_probe parameter Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/19] device core: Autoprobe considered harmful? Dan Williams
2026-03-09 16:58   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/19] PCI/TSM: Add Device Security (TVM Guest) LOCK operation support Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/19] PCI/TSM: Add Device Security (TVM Guest) ACCEPT " Dan Williams
2026-03-03  7:15   ` Baolu Lu
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/19] PCI/TSM: Add "evidence" support Dan Williams
2026-03-03  3:14   ` kernel test robot
2026-03-03 10:16   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-03-03 16:38   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-03-13 10:07   ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-13 18:06     ` Dan Williams
2026-03-14 18:12   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-17  1:45     ` Dan Williams
2026-03-19  0:00       ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-20  2:50         ` Dan Williams [this message]
2026-03-17 18:14     ` Lukas Wunner
2026-03-18  7:56       ` Dan Williams
2026-03-23 18:18         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-14 18:37   ` Lukas Wunner
2026-03-16 20:13     ` Dan Williams
2026-03-16 23:02       ` Dan Williams
2026-03-17 14:13         ` Lukas Wunner
2026-03-18  7:22           ` Dan Williams
2026-03-17 18:24   ` Lukas Wunner
2026-03-18  7:41     ` Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/19] PCI/TSM: Support creating encrypted MMIO descriptors via TDISP Report Dan Williams
2026-03-04 17:14   ` dan.j.williams
2026-03-13  9:57     ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-05  4:46   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-03-13 10:23     ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-13 13:36       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-17  5:13         ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-24  3:26           ` Dan Williams
2026-03-24 12:38             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-16  5:19       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-03-23 18:20         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-26 23:38           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-03-27 11:49             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/19] x86, swiotlb: Teach swiotlb to skip "accepted" devices Dan Williams
2026-03-03  9:07   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-03-13 10:26     ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-03  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 11/19] x86, dma: Allow accepted devices to map private memory Dan Williams
2026-03-03  7:36   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-03-03  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 12/19] x86, ioremap, resource: Support IORES_DESC_ENCRYPTED for encrypted PCI MMIO Dan Williams
2026-03-19 15:34   ` Borislav Petkov
2026-03-03  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 13/19] samples/devsec: Introduce a PCI device-security bus + endpoint sample Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 14/19] samples/devsec: Add sample IDE establishment Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 15/19] samples/devsec: Add sample TSM bind and guest_request flows Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 16/19] samples/devsec: Introduce a "Device Security TSM" sample driver Dan Williams
2026-03-27  8:44   ` Lai, Yi
2026-03-03  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 17/19] tools/testing/devsec: Add a script to exercise samples/devsec/ Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 18/19] samples/devsec: Add evidence support Dan Williams
2026-03-03  0:02 ` [PATCH v2 19/19] tools/testing/devsec: Add basic evidence retrieval validation Dan Williams
2026-03-03  9:23 ` [PATCH v2 00/19] PCI/TSM: TEE I/O infrastructure Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-03-03 22:01   ` dan.j.williams

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