From: Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
x86@kernel.org, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
"Kalra, Ashish" <ashish.kalra@amd.com>,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Randomness on confidential computing platforms
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 16:46:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6afe76be-90a7-4cf7-8c6c-23e6a14f8116@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240126134230.1166943-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
On 26.01.24 г. 15:42 ч., Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> 4. Exit to the host/VMM with an error indication after a Confidential
> Computing Guest failed to obtain random input from RDRAND/RDSEED
> instructions after reasonable number of retries. This option allows
> host/VMM to take some correction action for cases when the load on
> RDRAND/RDSEED instructions has been put by another actor, i.e. the
> other guest VM. The exit to host/VMM in such cases can be made
> transparent for the Confidential Computing Guest in the TDX case with
> the assistance of the TDX module component.
But is this really a viable solution in the face of malicious VMM? It
assumes that if the VMM is signaled that randomness has been exhausted
it will try to rectify it, what if such a signal can instead be
repurposed for malicious purposes? Could it perhaps be used as some sort
of a side channel attack ?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-26 14:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-26 13:42 [RFC] Randomness on confidential computing platforms Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-01-26 14:46 ` Nikolay Borisov [this message]
2024-01-26 15:42 ` Reshetova, Elena
2024-01-26 15:57 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-01-26 16:35 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-01-29 7:15 ` Reshetova, Elena
2024-01-26 15:23 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-29 10:27 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-01-29 16:30 ` Dave Hansen
2024-01-29 16:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-01-29 16:41 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-01-29 17:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-01-29 18:55 ` Dave Hansen
2024-01-29 20:26 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-01-29 21:04 ` Dave Hansen
2024-01-29 21:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-01-29 21:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-01-29 22:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-01-29 21:33 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-01-29 22:18 ` Dave Hansen
2024-01-29 23:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-01-30 8:19 ` Reshetova, Elena
2024-01-30 8:01 ` Reshetova, Elena
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