From: Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
tony.luck@intel.com, bp@alien8.de
Cc: x86@kernel.org, Dave.Martin@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com,
corbet@lwn.net, skhan@linuxfoundation.org, rdunlap@infradead.org,
tglx@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
hpa@zytor.com, kas@kernel.org, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] x86,fs/resctrl: Keep mbm_assign_mode in default mode at boot
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2026 20:09:37 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6e0280d9-88e3-459e-893b-80bc9f6cdc31@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f979d477-9beb-4e24-8e51-4a5cbaf75aa4@intel.com>
Hi Reinette,
On 10/12/26 13:47, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
>
> On 10/9/26 4:44 PM, Babu Moger wrote:
>> The mbm_event mode assigns hardware MBM counters to RMID/event pairs.
>> It is intended for deployments that need to manage counter assignment
>> on platforms where the number of monitoring groups exceeds the available
>> hardware counters. Hardware counters are scarce on these platforms, so
>> mbm_event mode suits workflows that monitor a subset of groups at a time
>> and rotate assignments as needed.
>>
>> resctrl enables the mbm_event mode by default on hardware that supports
>> it. This breaks the pqos tool [1], which assumes the historical default
>> mode. It creates 16 or more monitoring groups and uses two counters per
>> group. On a platform with 32 counters per domain, that exhausts the
>> mbm_event counters pool, causing additional groups to read "Unassigned".
>> pqos interprets a non-numeric event read as zero bandwidth and reports 0
>> MB/s for those groups:
>>
>> $sudo pqos -m all:0-4
>> CORE IPC MISSES LLC[KB] MBL[MB/s] MBR[MB/s]
>> 0 0.69 16k 192.0 0.0 0.0
>> 1 0.40 3k 0.0 0.0 0.0
>> 2 0.44 1k 64.0 0.0 0.0
>> 3 0.39 1k 64.0 0.0 0.0
>> 4 0.43 1k 0.0 0.0 0.0
>>
>> Leave mbm_assign_mode in default mode during initialization. Default mode
>> uses one counter per monitoring group. On existing AMD platforms, the
>> default active counters pool is 64 and may be larger on newer hardware.
>> The active counters pool is the number of counters that the hardware can
>> actively track in default mode.
>>
>> Deployments within the active counter pool receive accurate bandwidth
>
> nit: "active counter pool" -> "active counters pool"
> (to be consistent with all the other instances)
Sure.
>> measurements in the default mode. Users can create more monitoring groups
>> (4096) than there are active counters in the pool. Beyond that pool,
>
> Unexpected where the hardcoded 4096 comes from. Could this be "(for example,
> 4096 on current hardware)"?
Sure.
>> readings may be misleading or report as "Unavailable", with no user-visible
>> indication.
>>
>> Default mode is still limited once the number of monitoring groups exceeds
>> that active counters pool. After hardware re-allocates a counter, a read
>> may return "Unavailable". pqos still treats "Unavailable" as zero.
>> Successive reads can be a count, "Unavailable", then another count. pqos
>> treats those jumps as wraparound and can report an inconsistent rate:
>>
>> $sudo pqos -m all:0-4
>> CORE IPC MISSES LLC[KB] MBL[MB/s] MBR[MB/s]
>> 0 0.76 60k 32.0 0.0 0.0
>> 1 0.45 1k 32.0 0.0 0.0
>> 2 1.57 107k 64.0 0.0 17592186044184.9
>> 3 1.62 276k 4928.0 3.2 0.5
>>
>> Users that need stable measurements beyond the active countes pool should
>
> "countes" -> "counters"
Sure.
>
>> use mbm_event mode and rotate assignments as needed. Enable it with:
>>
>> $echo mbm_event > /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_mode
>>
>> Fixes: 0f1576e43adc ("x86/resctrl: Configure mbm_event mode if supported")
>> Closes: https://github.com/intel/intel-cmt-cat/issues/311
>> Signed-off-by: Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>
>> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
>> Link: https://github.com/intel/intel-cmt-cat # [1]
>> ---
>
> ...
>
>> ---
>> Documentation/filesystems/resctrl.rst | 43 +++++++++++++++++----------
>> arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/monitor.c | 1 -
>> 2 files changed, 28 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/resctrl.rst b/Documentation/filesystems/resctrl.rst
>> index c8507580474a..a896bcae3319 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/filesystems/resctrl.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/filesystems/resctrl.rst
>> @@ -354,8 +354,8 @@ with the following files:
>> ::
>>
>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_mode
>> - [mbm_event]
>> - default
>> + [default]
>> + mbm_event
>>
>> "mbm_event":
>>
>> @@ -376,20 +376,35 @@ with the following files:
>> "mbm_L3_assignments" after switching to "mbm_event" mode for counter
>> assignment states of all monitoring groups.
>>
>> - The mode is beneficial for AMD platforms that support more CTRL_MON
>> - and MON groups than available hardware counters. By default, this
>> - feature is enabled on AMD platforms with the ABMC (Assignable Bandwidth
>> - Monitoring Counters) capability, ensuring counters remain assigned even
>> - when the corresponding RMID is not actively used by any processor.
>> + It is intended for deployments that need to manage counter assignment on
>> + platforms where the number of monitoring groups exceeds the available
>> + hardware counters. Hardware counters are scarce on these platforms, so
>> + mbm_event mode suits workflows that monitor a subset of groups at a time and
>> + rotate assignments as needed. The mbm_event mode ensures counters remain
>> + assigned even when the corresponding RMID is not actively monitored.
>>
>> "default":
>>
>> In default mode, resctrl assumes there is a hardware counter for each
>> - event within every CTRL_MON and MON group. On AMD platforms, it is
>> - recommended to use the mbm_event mode, if supported, to prevent reset of MBM
>> - events between reads resulting from hardware re-allocating counters. This can
>> - result in misleading values or display "Unavailable" if no counter is assigned
>> - to the event.
>> + event within every CTRL_MON and MON group. This mode is enabled by default.
>> +
>> + On AMD platforms that support more CTRL_MON and MON groups than hardware
>> + counters, hardware dynamically shares a smaller pool of counters among
>> + RMIDs. One counter from this pool is used per monitoring group and counts
>> + every MBM event of that group's RMID. The size of the pool is not
>> + enumerated to software (unlike "num_mbm_cntrs"), and "num_rmids" may be
>> + much larger. For example, 64 counters in this pool monitor 64 groups.
>> + Newer hardware may provide a larger pool.
>> +
>> + While the number of monitoring groups does not exceed that pool, a counter
>> + stays attached to each RMID and readings remain accurate. Creating more
>> + groups than the pool can cause hardware to re-allocate those counters
>> + between successive reads of an event. Bandwidth values may then be
>> + misleading, or a read may return "Unavailable" if no counter is allocated
>> + to the RMID. There is no user-visible indication when this begins.
>> + Users who need stable readings beyond that pool should switch to mbm_event
>> + mode, if supported, and assign counters to the groups of interest
>> + (rotating assignments as needed).
>>
>> * To enable "mbm_event" counter assignment mode:
>> ::
>> @@ -1787,11 +1802,9 @@ View the llc occupancy snapshot::
>> Examples on working with mbm_assign_mode
>> ========================================
>>
>> -a. Check if MBM counter assignment mode is supported.
>> +a. Check if MBM counter assignment mode is supported and enabled.
>> ::
>>
>> - # mount -t resctrl resctrl /sys/fs/resctrl/
>> -
>> # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_mode
>> [mbm_event]
>> default
>
> After the above doc changes the mbm_assign_on_mkdir description still reads
> "Enabled by default on boot". This is still technically accurate, but this patch
> makes it unobservable by user space. Fine with me if you intentionally decide to
> keep it but I would just like to confirm that you considered it?
Good catch. I noticed that a while ago, but it slipped my mind.
I also see that the MPAM driver initializes it to true at boot. I would
expect that to be harmless.
Thanks
Babu
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-13 1:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-09 23:44 [PATCH v4 0/3] x86,fs/resctrl: Keep default MBM mode at boot and fix ABMC programming Babu Moger
2026-10-09 23:44 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] x86/resctrl: Fix ABMC counter programming Babu Moger
2026-10-12 18:40 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-13 1:00 ` Moger, Babu
2026-10-09 23:44 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] fs/resctrl: Assign counters to existing groups when enabling mbm_event Babu Moger
2026-10-12 18:44 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-13 1:02 ` Moger, Babu
2026-10-13 2:16 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-13 13:33 ` Babu Moger
2026-10-09 23:44 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] x86,fs/resctrl: Keep mbm_assign_mode in default mode at boot Babu Moger
2026-10-12 18:47 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-10-13 1:09 ` Babu Moger [this message]
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