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From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: "Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-coco@lists.linux.dev" <linux-coco@lists.linux.dev>,
	"Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	"yilun.xu@linux.intel.com" <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>
Cc: "Gao, Chao" <chao.gao@intel.com>,
	"Xu, Yilun" <yilun.xu@intel.com>,
	"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"baolu.lu@linux.intel.com" <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	"kas@kernel.org" <kas@kernel.org>,
	"Li, Xiaoyao" <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Verma, Vishal L" <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	"Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Duan, Zhenzhong" <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/31] x86/virt/tdx: Configure TDX Module with optional TDX Connect feature
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2026 00:40:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <847eb26878cb06afb47f4ecdb0bfe8ab7e432e8a.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8c4dfadaf73ed175a959ab16335a8d90266453b5.camel@intel.com>

On Wed, 2026-04-01 at 23:53 +0000, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
> On Wed, 2026-04-01 at 23:42 +0000, Huang, Kai wrote:
> > Maybe a more generic comment:
> > 
> > I don't quite like hard-coding opt-in TDX_FEATURES0_TDXCONNECT inside
> > config_tdx_module(), especially currently we just unconditionally opt it in
> > if the module support this feature.
> > 
> > Initializing TDX Connect (and other features via TDX Module Extensions)
> > consumes more memory.  It would be better if we can choose to opt-in when
> > the kernel has enabled TDX Connect (or any other feature via TDX module
> > Extensions) in the Kconfig.
> 
> Better how? TDX uses a lot of memory. There are many possible optimizations to
> reduce this. Why focus on this one? Do we think any TDX users would actually
> reconfigure there kernel for this reason?
> 
> I mean, I don't actually know how much memory this is, but to me the reasoning
> doesn't seem in balance with the wider TDX situation.

In another patch, Yilun said:

  For now, TDX Module Extensions consume relatively large amount of
  memory (~50MB).

Distros tend to enable all I assume.  I guess the CSPs tend to enable all as
well, but I am not sure whether CSPs can also choose to only enable basic
TDX w/o other features like runtime update, TDX Connect etc, depending on
how they want to "sell" TDX VMs.

E.g., I assume a TD without GPU passthrough could be cheaper the one which
has, right?  Can the CSPs host such TDs on dedicated machine pools?  Can
they choose to disable TDX Connect on these machines?

They might not care about losing ~50M memory, though, but that's a different
story, and it could be more in the future.

My thinking is, this series actually introduced a new "TDX_CONNNECT"
Kconfig, so why not only consume the memory when it's on?

At last, just my 2cents, I kinda overall don't agree we always assume
"everything will be on" but neglect avoiding unnecessary code/cost that is
not reachable when some option is off.  That would defeat the purpose of
having Kconfig option.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-02  0:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-27 16:01 [PATCH v2 00/31] PCI/TSM: PCIe Link Encryption Establishment via TDX platform services Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 01/31] x86/tdx: Move all TDX error defines into <asm/shared/tdx_errno.h> Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 23:37   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-28  1:16     ` Dan Williams
2026-03-30  7:07       ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-30  7:10     ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-31  0:01   ` Dave Hansen
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 02/31] x86/virt/tdx: Move bit definitions of TDX_FEATURES0 to public header Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 23:45   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-30  8:07     ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 03/31] x86/virt/tdx: Add tdx_page_array helpers for new TDX Module objects Xu Yilun
2026-03-28  1:35   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-30 10:25     ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-30 23:25       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-31  6:25         ` Tony Lindgren
2026-04-01  7:25         ` Tony Lindgren
2026-03-30 15:47     ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-30 23:57       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-31 10:11         ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-30 13:31   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-03-31 13:31     ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 04/31] x86/virt/tdx: Support allocating contiguous pages for tdx_page_array Xu Yilun
2026-03-30 13:48   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-03-31 13:37     ` Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/31] x86/virt/tdx: Extend tdx_page_array to support IOMMU_MT Xu Yilun
2026-03-30 23:54   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-31 14:19     ` Xu Yilun
2026-04-01  0:17       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02  0:05   ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/31] x86/virt/tdx: Read global metadata for TDX Module Extensions/Connect Xu Yilun
2026-03-30 14:23   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-03-31 14:23     ` Xu Yilun
2026-04-01 21:36   ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/31] x86/virt/tdx: Embed version info in SEAMCALL leaf function definitions Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/31] x86/virt/tdx: Configure TDX Module with optional TDX Connect feature Xu Yilun
2026-03-31 10:38   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-04-01 10:13   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-01 23:42   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-01 23:53     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02  0:40       ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2026-04-02  0:48         ` Dave Hansen
2026-04-02  1:06           ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/31] x86/virt/tdx: Move tdx_clflush_page() up in the file Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/31] x86/virt/tdx: Add extra memory to TDX Module for Extensions Xu Yilun
2026-03-30 23:36   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-31 11:00   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 11/31] x86/virt/tdx: Make TDX Module initialize Extensions Xu Yilun
2026-03-30 23:25   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-31 14:58     ` Xu Yilun
2026-04-01 11:42       ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 12/31] x86/virt/tdx: Enable the Extensions after basic TDX Module init Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 13/31] x86/virt/tdx: Extend tdx_clflush_page() to handle compound pages Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 14/31] PCI/TSM: Report active IDE streams per host bridge Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 15/31] coco/tdx-host: Introduce a "tdx_host" device Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 16/31] coco/tdx-host: Support Link TSM for TDX host Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 17/31] acpi: Add KEYP support to fw_table parsing Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 18/31] iommu/vt-d: Cache max domain ID to avoid redundant calculation Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 19/31] iommu/vt-d: Reserve the MSB domain ID bit for the TDX module Xu Yilun
2026-03-28 16:57   ` kernel test robot
2026-03-31  7:20     ` Baolu Lu
2026-03-28 19:58   ` kernel test robot
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 20/31] x86/virt/tdx: Add a helper to loop on TDX_INTERRUPTED_RESUMABLE Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 21/31] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrappers for trusted IOMMU setup and clear Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 22/31] iommu/vt-d: Export a helper to do function for each dmar_drhd_unit Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 23/31] coco/tdx-host: Setup all trusted IOMMUs on TDX Connect init Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 24/31] coco/tdx-host: Add a helper to exchange SPDM messages through DOE Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 25/31] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrappers for SPDM management Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 26/31] mm: Add __free() support for __free_page() Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 27/31] coco/tdx-host: Implement SPDM session setup Xu Yilun
2026-04-02 11:29   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 28/31] coco/tdx-host: Parse ACPI KEYP table to init IDE for PCI host bridges Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 29/31] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrappers for IDE stream management Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 30/31] coco/tdx-host: Implement IDE stream setup/teardown Xu Yilun
2026-03-27 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 31/31] coco/tdx-host: Finally enable SPDM session and IDE Establishment Xu Yilun

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