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From: "Pratik R. Sampat" <prsampat@amd.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>,
	Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	ardb@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, osalvador@suse.de,
	thomas.lendacky@amd.com, michael.roth@amd.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/4] mm: Add support for unaccepted memory hotplug
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2025 13:35:37 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <91092d6d-888d-48dc-8a90-d184bfe73d0a@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2b82fb9f-338e-47e9-bd14-3bdb392dfcbf@kernel.org>



On 12/1/25 12:25 PM, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> On 12/1/25 18:15, Pratik R. Sampat wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> On 11/28/25 3:34 AM, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
>>> On 11/27/25 18:40, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2025 at 04:27:29PM -0600, Pratik R. Sampat wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/26/25 5:12 AM, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 11:57:51AM -0600, Pratik R. Sampat wrote:
>>>>>>> The unaccepted memory structure currently only supports accepting memory
>>>>>>> present at boot time. The unaccepted table uses a fixed-size bitmap
>>>>>>> reserved in memblock based on the initial memory layout, preventing
>>>>>>> dynamic addition of memory ranges after boot. This causes guest
>>>>>>> termination when memory is hot-added in a secure virtual machine due to
>>>>>>> accessing pages that have not transitioned to private before use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does the hot-pluggable memory look in EFI memory map? I thought
>>>>>> hot-pluggable ranges suppose to be declared thare. The cleanest solution
>>>>>> would be to have hot-pluggable and unaccepted indicated in EFI memory,
>>>>>> so we can size bitmap accordingly upfront.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not quite sure if I fully understand. Do you mean to refer to the
>>>>> EFI_MEMORY_HOT_PLUGGABLE attribute that is used for cold plugged boot
>>>>> memory? If so, wouldn't it still be desirable to increase the size of
>>>>> the bitmap to what was marked as hotpluggable initially?
>>>>
>>>> I just don't understand how hotpluggable memory presented in EFI memory
>>>> map in presence of unaccepted memory. If not-yet-plugged memory marked
>>>> as unaccepted we can preallocate bitmap upfront and make unaccepted
>>>> memory transparent wrt hotplug.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, isn't virtio-mem a more attractive target to support than HW-style
>>>> hotplug?
>>>
>>> I would have thought so as well, such that we can just let virtio-mem take care of any acceptance before actually using hotplugged memory (exposing it to the buddy).
>>>
>>> Likely there is desire to support other hypervisors?
>>
>> That's true. We are certainly thinking about how the RAM discard manager
>> should look like with multiple states to allow guest_memfd and
>> virtio-mem to work together.
>>
> 
> Right, there is the QEMU side of it as well.
> 
>> Since both paths in Linux eventually converge around
>> add_memory_resource(), based on some light hacking in QEMU I could see
>> similar hotplug behavior for virtio-mem as well.
> 
> For virtio-mem it would not be add_memory_resource().
> 
> Whenever we would be plugging memory we would be accepting it, and when we would be unplugging memory we would unaccept it.
> 
> That is, acceptance does not happen at add_memory_resource() time, but when virtio-mem asks the device to transition a device block from unplugged<->plugged.

Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up!


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-01 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-25 17:57 [RFC PATCH 0/4] SEV-SNP Unaccepted Memory Hotplug Pratik R. Sampat
2025-11-25 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] efi/libstub: Decouple memory bitmap from the unaccepted table Pratik R. Sampat
2025-11-26 11:08   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-11-26 22:27     ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-11-27 17:29       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-11-25 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] mm: Add support for unaccepted memory hotplug Pratik R. Sampat
2025-11-26 11:12   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-11-26 22:27     ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-11-27 17:40       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-11-28  9:34         ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-01 17:15           ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-12-01 18:25             ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-01 19:35               ` Pratik R. Sampat [this message]
2025-12-01 17:15         ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-12-01 17:48           ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-01 17:58             ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-11-26 22:31     ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-27 17:35       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-11-27 18:12         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-28  9:30           ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-28 11:34             ` Borislav Petkov
2025-12-01  9:18               ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-01 11:12                 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-12-01 18:32                   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-01 19:10                     ` Borislav Petkov
2025-12-01 20:10                       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-01 20:25                         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-12-01 20:36                           ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-03 14:46                             ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-03 15:58                               ` Borislav Petkov
2025-12-03 15:00             ` Rik van Riel
2025-11-28  9:32   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-01 17:21     ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-12-01 18:36       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-01 19:35         ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-12-09 21:36           ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-12-11 15:00             ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-11 22:07               ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-11-25 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] x86/sev: Introduce hotplug-aware SNP page state validation Pratik R. Sampat
2025-11-25 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] mm: Add support for unaccepted memory hot-remove Pratik R. Sampat

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