From: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 03/20] dma-direct: use DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED in alloc/free paths
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2026 10:25:16 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <98800d21-18f6-44d6-9ba0-da9b77567d85@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260630160242.GI7525@ziepe.ca>
On 1/7/26 02:02, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 12:39:21PM +1000, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 18/6/26 01:41, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2026 at 10:50:39AM +1000, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
>>>>> @@ -193,16 +193,31 @@ void *dma_direct_alloc(struct device *dev, size_t size,
>>>>> dma_addr_t *dma_handle, gfp_t gfp, unsigned long attrs)
>>>>> {
>>>>> bool remap = false, set_uncached = false;
>>>>> - bool mark_mem_decrypt = true;
>>>>> + bool mark_mem_decrypt = false;
>>>>> struct page *page;
>>>>> void *ret;
>>>>> + /*
>>>>> + * DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED is not a caller-visible dma_alloc_*()
>>>>> + * attribute. The direct allocator uses it internally after it has
>>>>> + * decided that the backing pages must be shared/decrypted, so the
>>>>> + * rest of the allocation path can consistently select DMA addresses,
>>>>> + * choose compatible pools and restore encryption on free.
>>>>
>>>> Why this limit?
>>>>
>>>> Context: I am looking for a memory pool for a few shared pages (to
>>>> do some guest<->host communication), SWIOTLB seems like the right
>>>> fit but swiotlb_alloc() is not exported and
>>>> dma_direct_alloc(DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED) is not allowed. Thanks,
>>>
>>> Then setup your struct device so that the DMA API knows the
>>> guest<->host channel requires unecrypted and it will work correctly.
>>>
>>> I think this is a reasonable API to use for that, and I was just
>>> advocating that hyperv should be using it too.
>>>
>>> But it all relies on a properly setup struct device.
>>
>> Sounds good but how do I do that in practice?
>
> I think we haven't got there yet, I understood Dan's plan was to add a
> bit in the struct device that signals if the device must be
> unencrypted or can support all memory.
>
> Currently the dma api assumes all devices must have unencrypted by
> default so it should be fine already, shouldn't it?
It assumes that DMA returns a handle for shared memory but the state of that memory is not guaranteed beforehand. I dislike 2M page mashing.
>> not externally available so I'll have to trick the DMA layer into
>> using SWIOTLB (which is still all shared, right?) as I specifically
>> want to skip page conversions. Setting low DMA mask won't guarantee
>> that the DMA layer won't allocate a page outside of SWIOTLB and
>> convert it. Manually do
>
> Why so particular?
aahhh I missed "pre-". I need a way to get pre-shared pages for my sev-guest activities.
> Any address that satisifies the constraints should
> be good enough?
Any address can be already shared (from swiotlb) or not (from outside swiotlb). The latter will may trigger 2M page smashing and this is what I want to avoid. Makes better sense now? Thanks,
--
Alexey
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-02 0:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-04 8:39 [PATCH v6 00/20] dma-mapping: Use DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED through direct, pool and swiotlb paths Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 01/20] s390: Expose protected virtualization through cc_platform_has() Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-06 0:34 ` JAEHOON KIM
2026-06-09 13:44 ` Catalin Marinas
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 02/20] dma-direct: swiotlb: handle swiotlb alloc/free outside __dma_direct_alloc_pages Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-09 12:15 ` Petr Tesarik
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 03/20] dma-direct: use DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED in alloc/free paths Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-09 12:18 ` Petr Tesarik
2026-06-17 0:50 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-06-17 14:46 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-17 15:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-18 2:39 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-06-30 16:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-02 0:25 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy [this message]
2026-07-02 14:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-03 10:15 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-07-03 11:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 04/20] dma-pool: track decrypted atomic pools and select them via attrs Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-09 12:23 ` Petr Tesarik
2026-06-09 14:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-10 8:07 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-10 16:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-11 4:51 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-11 11:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-11 5:25 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-11 11:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-11 11:50 ` Petr Tesarik
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 05/20] dma: swiotlb: pass mapping attributes by reference Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-09 12:21 ` Petr Tesarik
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 06/20] dma: swiotlb: track pool encryption state and honor DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-09 12:48 ` Petr Tesarik
2026-06-10 8:46 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 07/20] dma-mapping: make dma_pgprot() " Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 08/20] dma-direct: pass attrs to dma_capable() for DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED checks Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-09 12:50 ` Petr Tesarik
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 09/20] dma-direct: make dma_direct_map_phys() honor DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 10/20] dma-direct: set decrypted flag for remapped DMA allocations Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 11/20] dma-direct: select DMA address encoding from DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 12/20] dma-pool: fix page leak in atomic_pool_expand() cleanup Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 13/20] dma-direct: rename ret to cpu_addr in alloc helpers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-09 12:54 ` Petr Tesarik
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 14/20] dma-direct: return struct page from dma_direct_alloc_from_pool() Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-09 13:12 ` Petr Tesarik
2026-06-09 13:45 ` Catalin Marinas
2026-06-09 14:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 15/20] iommu/dma: Check atomic pool allocation result directly Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-09 13:13 ` Petr Tesarik
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 16/20] dma: swiotlb: free dynamic pools from process context Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-09 13:23 ` Petr Tesarik
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 17/20] dma: swiotlb: handle set_memory_decrypted() failures Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-09 13:32 ` Petr Tesarik
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 18/20] dma: free atomic pool pages by physical address Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 19/20] swiotlb: Preserve allocation virtual address for dynamic pools Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-09 13:40 ` Petr Tesarik
2026-06-04 8:39 ` [PATCH v6 20/20] swiotlb: remove unused SWIOTLB_FORCE flag Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-09 13:44 ` Petr Tesarik
2026-06-09 13:43 ` [PATCH v6 00/20] dma-mapping: Use DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED through direct, pool and swiotlb paths Catalin Marinas
2026-06-09 14:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-18 4:44 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-06-18 8:37 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-18 15:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-19 2:05 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-06-19 12:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-19 13:44 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-22 0:58 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-06-30 16:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-19 12:14 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-19 12:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-19 13:36 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-19 14:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-29 6:46 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-29 9:51 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-30 17:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-01 3:09 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-07-02 15:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-02 1:04 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-06-11 5:52 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
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