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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Elliot Berman <quic_eberman@quicinc.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Patrick Roy <roypat@amazon.co.uk>,
	qperret@google.com, Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 0/5] mm: Introduce guest_memfd library
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2024 15:04:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9fd97046-b7b1-49d6-8fc5-2104814152d6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240829-guest-memfd-lib-v2-0-b9afc1ff3656@quicinc.com>

On 8/30/24 00:24, Elliot Berman wrote:
> In preparation for adding more features to KVM's guest_memfd, refactor
> and introduce a library which abstracts some of the core-mm decisions
> about managing folios associated with the file. The goal of the refactor
> serves two purposes:
> 
> 1. Provide an easier way to reason about memory in guest_memfd. With KVM
> supporting multiple confidentiality models (TDX, SEV-SNP, pKVM, ARM
> CCA), and coming support for allowing kernel and userspace to access
> this memory, it seems necessary to create a stronger abstraction between
> core-mm concerns and hypervisor concerns.
> 
> 2. Provide a common implementation for other hypervisors (Gunyah) to use.
> 
> To create a guest_memfd, the owner provides operations to attempt to
> unmap the folio and check whether a folio is accessible to the host. The
> owner can call guest_memfd_make_inaccessible() to ensure Linux doesn't
> have the folio mapped.
> 
> The series first introduces a guest_memfd library based on the current
> KVM (next) implementation, then adds few features needed for Gunyah and
> arm64 pKVM. The Gunyah usage of the series will be posted separately
> shortly after sending this series. I'll work with Fuad on using the
> guest_memfd library for arm64 pKVM based on the feedback received.
> 
> There are a few TODOs still pending.
> - The KVM patch isn't tested. I don't have access a SEV-SNP setup to be
>    able to test.
> - I've not yet investigated deeply whether having the guest_memfd
>    library helps live migration. I'd appreciate any input on that part.
> - We should consider consolidating the adjust_direct_map() in
>    arch/x86/virt/svm/sev.c so guest_memfd can take care of it.
> - There's a race possibility where the folio ref count is incremented
>    and about to also increment the safe counter, but waiting for the
>    folio lock to be released. The owner of folio_lock will see mismatched
>    counter values and not be able to convert to (in)accessible, even
>    though it should be okay to do so.
>   
> I'd appreciate any feedback, especially on the direction I'm taking for
> tracking the (in)accessible state.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Elliot Berman <quic_eberman@quicinc.com>
> 
> Changes in v2:
> - Significantly reworked to introduce "accessible" and "safe" reference
>    counters

Was there any discussion on this change?  If not, can you explain it a 
bit more since it's the biggest change compared to the KVM design?  I 
suppose the reference counting is used in relation to mmap, but it would 
be nice to have a few more words on how the counts are used and an 
explanation of when (especially) the accessible atomic_t can take any 
value other than 0/1.

As an aside, allocating 8 bytes of per-folio private memory (and 
dereferencing the pointer, too) is a bit of a waste considering that the 
private pointer itself is 64 bits on all platforms of interest.

Paolo

> - Link to v1:
>    https://lore.kernel.org/r/20240805-guest-memfd-lib-v1-0-e5a29a4ff5d7@quicinc.com
> 
> ---
> Elliot Berman (5):
>        mm: Introduce guest_memfd
>        mm: guest_memfd: Allow folios to be accessible to host
>        kvm: Convert to use guest_memfd library
>        mm: guest_memfd: Add ability for userspace to mmap pages
>        mm: guest_memfd: Add option to remove inaccessible memory from direct map
> 
>   arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c      |   3 +-
>   include/linux/guest_memfd.h |  49 ++++
>   mm/Kconfig                  |   3 +
>   mm/Makefile                 |   1 +
>   mm/guest_memfd.c            | 667 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I think I'd rather have this in virt/lib.

Paolo


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-10 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-29 22:24 [PATCH RFC v2 0/5] mm: Introduce guest_memfd library Elliot Berman
2024-08-29 22:24 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/5] mm: Introduce guest_memfd Elliot Berman
2024-08-29 22:24 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/5] mm: guest_memfd: Allow folios to be accessible to host Elliot Berman
2024-10-09 20:14   ` Vishal Annapurve
2024-08-29 22:24 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/5] kvm: Convert to use guest_memfd library Elliot Berman
2024-10-23  1:18   ` Mike Day
2024-08-29 22:24 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/5] mm: guest_memfd: Add ability for userspace to mmap pages Elliot Berman
2024-08-29 22:24 ` [PATCH RFC v2 5/5] mm: guest_memfd: Add option to remove inaccessible memory from direct map Elliot Berman
2024-10-10 13:04 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2024-10-10 21:20   ` [PATCH RFC v2 0/5] mm: Introduce guest_memfd library Elliot Berman

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