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From: Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>,
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	Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 12/21] KVM: IOMMUFD: MEMFD: Map private pages
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 08:34:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGtprH-bj_+1k-jwEVS9PcAmCOvo72Vec3VVKvL1te7T8R1ooQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB527608E3B8B354502F22DFCA8C6F2@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 7:36 AM Tian, Kevin <kevin.tian@intel.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 5:11 AM
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 15, 2024 at 11:08 PM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 11:21:26PM +1000, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> > > > IOMMUFD calls get_user_pages() for every mapping which will allocate
> > > > shared memory instead of using private memory managed by the KVM
> > and
> > > > MEMFD.
> > >
> > > Please check this series, it is much more how I would expect this to
> > > work. Use the guest memfd directly and forget about kvm in the iommufd
> > code:
> > >
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/r/1726319158-283074-1-git-send-email-
> > steven.sistare@oracle.com
> > >
> > > I would imagine you'd detect the guest memfd when accepting the FD and
> > > then having some different path in the pinning logic to pin and get
> > > the physical ranges out.
> >
> > According to the discussion at KVM microconference around hugepage
> > support for guest_memfd [1], it's imperative that guest private memory
> > is not long term pinned. Ideal way to implement this integration would
> > be to support a notifier that can be invoked by guest_memfd when
> > memory ranges get truncated so that IOMMU can unmap the corresponding
> > ranges. Such a notifier should also get called during memory
> > conversion, it would be interesting to discuss how conversion flow
> > would work in this case.
> >
> > [1] https://lpc.events/event/18/contributions/1764/ (checkout the
> > slide 12 from attached presentation)
> >
>
> Most devices don't support I/O page fault hence can only DMA to long
> term pinned buffers. The notifier might be helpful for in-kernel conversion
> but as a basic requirement there needs a way for IOMMUFD to call into
> guest memfd to request long term pinning for a given range. That is
> how I interpreted "different path" in Jason's comment.

Policy that is being aimed here:
1) guest_memfd will pin the pages backing guest memory for all users.
2) kvm_gmem_get_pfn users will get a locked folio with elevated
refcount when asking for the pfn/page from guest_memfd. Users will
drop the refcount and release the folio lock when they are done
using/installing (e.g. in KVM EPT/IOMMU PT entries) it. This folio
lock is supposed to be held for short durations.
3) Users can assume the pfn is around until they are notified by
guest_memfd on truncation or memory conversion.

Step 3 above is already followed by KVM EPT setup logic for CoCo VMs.
TDX VMs especially need to have secure EPT entries always mapped (once
faulted-in) while the guest memory ranges are private.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-23  6:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-23 13:21 [RFC PATCH 00/21] Secure VFIO, TDISP, SEV TIO Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 01/21] tsm-report: Rename module to reflect what it does Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-23 22:17   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-28 13:49   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-08-30  0:13   ` Dan Williams
2024-09-02  1:29     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 02/21] pci/doe: Define protocol types and make those public Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-23 22:18   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-30  2:15   ` Dan Williams
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 03/21] pci: Define TEE-IO bit in PCIe device capabilities Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-23 22:19   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-28 13:54   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-08-30  2:21   ` Dan Williams
2024-08-30  4:04     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-30 21:37       ` Dan Williams
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 04/21] PCI/IDE: Define Integrity and Data Encryption (IDE) extended capability Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-23 22:28   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-28 14:24   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-08-30  2:41   ` Dan Williams
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 05/21] crypto/ccp: Make some SEV helpers public Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-30  2:45   ` Dan Williams
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 06/21] crypto: ccp: Enable SEV-TIO feature in the PSP when supported Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-28 14:32   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-09-03 21:27   ` Dan Williams
2024-09-05  2:29     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-09-05 17:40       ` Dan Williams
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 07/21] pci/tdisp: Introduce tsm module Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-27 12:32   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-28  3:00     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-28 23:42       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-29  0:00         ` Dan Williams
2024-08-29  0:09           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-29  0:20             ` Dan Williams
2024-08-29 12:03               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-29  4:57         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-29 12:07           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-02  0:52             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-28 15:04   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-09-02  6:50   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2024-09-02  7:26     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-09-03 23:51   ` Dan Williams
2024-09-04 11:13     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-09-04 23:28       ` Dan Williams
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 08/21] crypto/ccp: Implement SEV TIO firmware interface Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-28 15:39   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 09/21] kvm: Export kvm_vm_set_mem_attributes Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 10/21] vfio: Export helper to get vfio_device from fd Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 11/21] KVM: SEV: Add TIO VMGEXIT and bind TDI Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-29 10:08   ` Xu Yilun
2024-08-30  4:00     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-30  7:02       ` Xu Yilun
2024-09-02  1:24         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-09-13 13:50   ` Zhi Wang
2024-09-13 22:08     ` Dan Williams
2024-09-14  2:47       ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-14  5:19         ` Zhi Wang
2024-09-18 10:45           ` Xu Yilun
2024-09-20  3:41             ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 12/21] KVM: IOMMUFD: MEMFD: Map private pages Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-26  8:39   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-26 12:30     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-29  9:34       ` Xu Yilun
2024-08-29 12:15         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-30  3:47           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-30 12:35             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-02  1:09               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-09-02 23:52                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-03  0:03                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-09-03  0:37                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-30  5:20           ` Xu Yilun
2024-08-30 12:36             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-03 20:34               ` Dan Williams
2024-09-04  0:02                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04  0:59                   ` Dan Williams
2024-09-05  8:29                     ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-05 12:02                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 12:07                         ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-05 12:00                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 12:17                       ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-05 12:23                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-05 20:53                           ` Dan Williams
2024-09-05 23:06                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-06  2:46                               ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-06 13:54                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-06  2:41                             ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-27  2:27     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-27  2:31       ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-15 21:07   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-20 21:10     ` Vishal Annapurve
2024-09-23  5:35       ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-23  6:34         ` Vishal Annapurve [this message]
2024-09-23  8:24           ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-23 16:02             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-23 23:52               ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-24 12:07                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-25  8:44                   ` Vishal Annapurve
2024-09-25 15:41                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-23 20:53             ` Vishal Annapurve
2024-09-23 23:55               ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 13/21] KVM: X86: Handle private MMIO as shared Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-30 16:57   ` Xu Yilun
2024-09-02  2:22     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-09-03  5:13       ` Xu Yilun
2024-09-06  3:31         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-09-09 10:07           ` Xu Yilun
2024-09-10  1:28             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 14/21] RFC: iommu/iommufd/amd: Add IOMMU_HWPT_TRUSTED flag, tweak DTE's DomainID, IOTLB Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-27 12:17   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 15/21] coco/sev-guest: Allow multiple source files in the driver Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 16/21] coco/sev-guest: Make SEV-to-PSP request helpers public Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 17/21] coco/sev-guest: Implement the guest side of things Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-28 15:54   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-09-14  7:19   ` Zhi Wang
2024-09-16  1:18     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 18/21] RFC: pci: Add BUS_NOTIFY_PCI_BUS_MASTER event Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 19/21] sev-guest: Stop changing encrypted page state for TDISP devices Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 20/21] pci: Allow encrypted MMIO mapping via sysfs Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-23 22:37   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-09-02  8:22     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-09-03 21:46       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-23 13:21 ` [RFC PATCH 21/21] pci: Define pci_iomap_range_encrypted Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-28 20:43 ` [RFC PATCH 00/21] Secure VFIO, TDISP, SEV TIO Dan Williams
2024-08-29 14:13   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-29 23:41     ` Dan Williams
2024-08-30  4:38       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-08-30 21:57         ` Dan Williams
2024-09-05  8:21     ` Tian, Kevin
2024-09-03 15:56 ` Sean Christopherson

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