From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp-out1.suse.de (smtp-out1.suse.de [195.135.220.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A8763D63 for ; Wed, 24 May 2023 10:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de (imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de [192.168.254.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-521) server-digest SHA512) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-out1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D85BC2184F; Wed, 24 May 2023 10:39:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.de; s=susede2_rsa; t=1684924743; h=from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc: mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=PIZOjHy34Pa3aKJjPE1x+kaQAyEQhGMM/I45dR2QCrA=; b=dVu2W9A8ON8JyVnLKjBuGJv6SV8EEg+HxSSFXIMOMzGtJ05kGk9Pn8wRBd+6dBKnkIkGDt 1XpSnZsw84YzjSa0J9SYiRaIpMw8Sn0yxjsBaTADJQlqrFJjUncxPcAsBISCKhilvq1cCA EPzc78PCjnm57wQoxiOkcXIniaNLULk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.de; s=susede2_ed25519; t=1684924743; h=from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc: mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=PIZOjHy34Pa3aKJjPE1x+kaQAyEQhGMM/I45dR2QCrA=; b=ETzkhO8i8atkPAz/8Snt2EX5SoggaDccax5hMSKza+1Lo4p/ibNRBuKHHzk+vaqGW0IIbr 7BG+MV8zgCI/Q5CQ== Received: from imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de (imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de [192.168.254.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-521) server-digest SHA512) (No client certificate requested) by imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5599133E6; Wed, 24 May 2023 10:39:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dovecot-director2.suse.de ([192.168.254.65]) by imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de with ESMTPSA id C7PfKkfpbWQTKQAAMHmgww (envelope-from ); Wed, 24 May 2023 10:39:03 +0000 Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 12:39:02 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_R=F6del?= To: Dionna Amalie Glaze Cc: amd-sev-snp@lists.suse.com, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [RFD] COCONUT-SVSM project governance Message-ID: References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-coco@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Hi Dionna, On Mon, May 08, 2023 at 09:28:40AM -0700, Dionna Amalie Glaze wrote: > I'm in favor of governance models that strongly value transparency, > good-faith disagreement, and a set of community guidelines that both > has enforcement power and accountability of all parties involved. Thanks for your input, I completly agree with that baseline. One thing to keep in mind is that any processes and rules we potentially put in place are aligned with the size of the community. Really large communities like for Rust or K8s certainly need different governance than ours. > 3 is a minimum I think, with at least 2 entities represented. Right, we need to make sure different entities are represented. > I think the sigstore.dev project does a good job of running regular > community meetings and publishing meeting notes to allow for regular > collaboration across institutions. > I don't think we need to set that up until there's a good reason to > take a discussion off the mailing list for higher bandwidth > communication, since who needs more low value meetings? > > [1] https://github.com/ossf/scorecard > [2] Robert's Rules of Order > [3] https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/understanding-open-source-governance-models > [4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0rakUuPXFM Thanks, that is a lot of good input. I think in general we need to find a balance between the needed bureaucracy to ensure fairness and inclusiveness on one side, and being able to stay productive and make decissions as needed on the other. That balance might shift with the size of the community, of course. Regards, -- Jörg Rödel jroedel@suse.de SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Frankenstraße 146 90461 Nürnberg Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Geschäftsführer: Ivo Totev, Andrew Myers, Andrew McDonald, Boudien Moerman