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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	pbonzini@redhat.com,  jroedel@suse.de, thomas.lendacky@amd.com,
	pgonda@google.com,  ashish.kalra@amd.com, bp@alien8.de,
	pankaj.gupta@amd.com,  liam.merwick@oracle.com,
	Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	 Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/5] KVM: SEV: Provide support for SNP_GUEST_REQUEST NAE event
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 12:54:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZnxyAWmKIu680R_5@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fbzi5bals5rmva3efgdpnljsfzdbehg4akwli7b5io7kqs3ikw@qfpdpxfec7ks>

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, Michael Roth wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:13:44AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, Michael Roth wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 06:58:09AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > > [*] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240229025759.1187910-1-stevensd@google.com
> > > > 
> > > > > +	if (is_error_noslot_pfn(req_pfn))
> > > > > +		return -EINVAL;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	resp_pfn = gfn_to_pfn(kvm, gpa_to_gfn(resp_gpa));
> > > > > +	if (is_error_noslot_pfn(resp_pfn)) {
> > > > > +		ret = EINVAL;
> > > > > +		goto release_req;
> > > > > +	}
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	if (rmp_make_private(resp_pfn, 0, PG_LEVEL_4K, 0, true)) {
> > > > > +		ret = -EINVAL;
> > > > > +		kvm_release_pfn_clean(resp_pfn);
> > > > > +		goto release_req;
> > > > > +	}
> > > > 
> > > > I don't see how this is safe.  KVM holds no locks, i.e. can't guarantee that the
> > > > resp_pfn stays private for the duration of the operation.  And on the opposite
> > > 
> > > When the page is set to private with asid=0,immutable=true arguments,
> > > this puts the page in a special 'firmware-owned' state that specifically
> > > to avoid any changes to the page state happening from under the ASPs feet.
> > > The only way to switch the page to any other state at this point is to
> > > issue the SEV_CMD_SNP_PAGE_RECLAIM request to the ASP via
> > > snp_page_reclaim().
> > >
> > > I could see the guest shooting itself in the foot by issuing 2 guest
> > > requests with the same req_pfn/resp_pfn, but on the KVM side whichever
> > > request issues rmp_make_private() first would succeed, and then the
> > > 2nd request would generate an EINVAL to userspace.
> > > 
> > > In that sense, rmp_make_private()/snp_page_reclaim() sort of pair to
> > > lock/unlock a page that's being handed to the ASP. But this should be
> > > better documented either way.
> > 
> > What about the host kernel though?  I don't see anything here that ensures resp_pfn
> > isn't "regular" memory, i.e. that ensure the page isn't being concurrently accessed
> > by the host kernel (or some other userspace process).
> > 
> > Or is the "private" memory still accessible by the host?
> 
> It's accessible, but it is immutable according to RMP table, so so it would
> require KVM to be elsewhere doing a write to the page,

I take it "immutable" means "read-only"?  If so, it would be super helpful to
document that in the APM.  I assumed "immutable" only meant that the RMP entry
itself is immutable, and that Assigned=AMD-SP is what prevented host accesses.

> but that seems possible if the guest is misbehaved. So I do think the RMP #PF
> concerns are warranted, and that looking at using KVM-allocated
> intermediary/"bounce" pages to pass to firmware is definitely worth looking
> into for v2 as that's just about the safest way to guarantee nothing else
> will be writing to the page after it gets set to immutable/firmware-owned.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-26 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-21 13:40 [PATCH v1 0/5] SEV-SNP: Add KVM support for attestation and KVM_EXIT_COCO Michael Roth
2024-06-21 13:40 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] KVM: SEV: Provide support for SNP_GUEST_REQUEST NAE event Michael Roth
2024-06-21 15:52   ` Liam Merwick
2024-06-21 16:17     ` Michael Roth
2024-06-21 17:15   ` [PATCH v1-revised " Michael Roth
2024-06-22  0:13     ` Liam Merwick
2024-06-26 14:32     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-26 13:58   ` [PATCH v1 " Sean Christopherson
2024-06-26 15:45     ` Michael Roth
2024-06-26 17:13       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-26 17:42         ` Michael Roth
2024-06-26 19:54           ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-06-27 14:48             ` Tom Lendacky
2024-06-27 15:35               ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-27 16:23                 ` Peter Gonda
2024-06-27 17:13                 ` Tom Lendacky
2024-06-27 18:07                   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-21 13:40 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] x86/sev: Move sev_guest.h into common SEV header Michael Roth
2024-06-21 16:42   ` Liam Merwick
2024-06-21 18:07   ` Tom Lendacky
2024-06-21 13:40 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] KVM: SEV: Provide support for SNP_EXTENDED_GUEST_REQUEST NAE event Michael Roth
2024-06-21 16:45   ` Liam Merwick
2024-06-21 19:21   ` Tom Lendacky
2024-06-22 20:28   ` Carlos Bilbao
2024-06-24 13:05     ` Tom Lendacky
2024-06-24 15:02       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-21 13:40 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] KVM: Introduce KVM_EXIT_COCO exit type Michael Roth
2024-06-26 14:22   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-26 17:30     ` Michael Roth
2024-06-28 20:08       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-29  0:36         ` Michael Roth
2024-07-26  7:15           ` Binbin Wu
2024-09-13 16:29             ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2024-10-28 18:20               ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-01 20:53                 ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2024-11-01 21:52                   ` Michael Roth
2024-11-01 23:54                     ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2024-11-19 13:53             ` Michael Roth
2024-11-20  4:03               ` Binbin Wu
2024-06-21 13:40 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] KVM: SEV: Add certificate support for SNP_EXTENDED_GUEST_REQUEST events Michael Roth

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