Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[David Hildenbrand]

Ahoihoi,

while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was 
raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the 
development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.

There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being 
guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment 
call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of 
guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)

So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing 
development of guest_memfd, in particular:

(1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
     of mmap() support ? ;) )
(2) Discuss current progress and challenges
(3) Cover future ideas and directions
(4) Whatever else makes sense

Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the 
hot topics at LPC ;)

I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7), 
starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).

We would be using Google Meet.


Thoughts?

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[Vishal Annapurve]

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 7:11 PM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Ahoihoi,
>
> while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was
> raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the
> development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
>
> There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being
> guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment
> call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of
> guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
>
> So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing
> development of guest_memfd, in particular:
>
> (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
>      of mmap() support ? ;) )
> (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
> (3) Cover future ideas and directions
> (4) Whatever else makes sense
>
> Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the
> hot topics at LPC ;)
>
> I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7),
> starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).

Thanks for starting this discussion! A dedicated forum for covering
guest memfd specific topics sounds great. Suggested time slot works
for me.

Regards,
Vishal

>
> We would be using Google Meet.
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb
>
>

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[Fuad Tabba]

On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 at 14:41, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Ahoihoi,
>
> while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was
> raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the
> development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
>
> There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being
> guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment
> call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of
> guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
>
> So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing
> development of guest_memfd, in particular:
>
> (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
>      of mmap() support ? ;) )
> (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
> (3) Cover future ideas and directions
> (4) Whatever else makes sense
>
> Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the
> hot topics at LPC ;)
>
> I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7),
> starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).
>
> We would be using Google Meet.
>
>
> Thoughts?

That works for me, thanks!

One thing to note, we're coming up to the period where the US/Europe
move away from daylight savings, but not at the same time. Just
something to keep in mind :)

Cheers,
/fuad

> --
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb
>
>

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[David Hildenbrand]

On 10.10.24 16:30, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 at 14:41, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ahoihoi,
>>
>> while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was
>> raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the
>> development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
>>
>> There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being
>> guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment
>> call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of
>> guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
>>
>> So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing
>> development of guest_memfd, in particular:
>>
>> (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
>>       of mmap() support ? ;) )
>> (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
>> (3) Cover future ideas and directions
>> (4) Whatever else makes sense
>>
>> Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the
>> hot topics at LPC ;)
>>
>> I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7),
>> starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).
>>
>> We would be using Google Meet.
>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
> 
> That works for me, thanks!
> 
> One thing to note, we're coming up to the period where the US/Europe
> move away from daylight savings, but not at the same time. Just
> something to keep in mind :)

Right, I'm located in Germany, so it will be a different "late" for me. 
(see how nice I am to US people :P )

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[Ackerley Tng]

David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:

> Ahoihoi,
>
> while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was 
> raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the 
> development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
>
> There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being 
> guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment 
> call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of 
> guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
>
> So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing 
> development of guest_memfd, in particular:
>
> (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
>      of mmap() support ? ;) )
> (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
> (3) Cover future ideas and directions
> (4) Whatever else makes sense
>
> Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the 
> hot topics at LPC ;)
>
> I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7), 
> starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).

This time works for me as well, thank you!

>
> We would be using Google Meet.

Thanks too! Shall we use http://meet.google.com/wxp-wtju-jzw ?

And here's a calendar event if you'd like notifications:
https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=TEMPLATE&tmeid=NDJvYjBha3FlMWpxdHFzMGNpNnQzZDk5cjBfMjAyNDEwMTdUMTYwMDAwWiBhY2tlcmxleXRuZ0Bnb29nbGUuY29t&tmsrc=ackerleytng%40google.com&scp=ALL

>
>
> Thoughts?

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[David Hildenbrand]

On 10.10.24 19:14, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
> 
>> Ahoihoi,
>>
>> while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was
>> raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the
>> development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
>>
>> There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being
>> guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment
>> call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of
>> guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
>>
>> So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing
>> development of guest_memfd, in particular:
>>
>> (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
>>       of mmap() support ? ;) )
>> (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
>> (3) Cover future ideas and directions
>> (4) Whatever else makes sense
>>
>> Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the
>> hot topics at LPC ;)
>>
>> I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7),
>> starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).
> 
> This time works for me as well, thank you!
> 
>>
>> We would be using Google Meet.
> 
> Thanks too! Shall we use http://meet.google.com/wxp-wtju-jzw ?

I assume that room cannot be joined when you are not around (e.g., using 
it right now makes me "Ask to join"). Can that be changed?

Otherwise, I think I can provide a room (Red Hat is using Google 
Mail/Meet etc.)

Thanks!

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[Sean Christopherson]

On Fri, Oct 11, 2024, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 10.10.24 19:14, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> > David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
> > 
> > > Ahoihoi,
> > > 
> > > while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was
> > > raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the
> > > development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
> > > 
> > > There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being
> > > guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment
> > > call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of
> > > guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
> > > 
> > > So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing
> > > development of guest_memfd, in particular:
> > > 
> > > (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
> > >       of mmap() support ? ;) )
> > > (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
> > > (3) Cover future ideas and directions
> > > (4) Whatever else makes sense
> > > 
> > > Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the
> > > hot topics at LPC ;)
> > > 
> > > I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7),
> > > starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).
> > 
> > This time works for me as well, thank you!
> > 
> > > 
> > > We would be using Google Meet.
> > 
> > Thanks too! Shall we use http://meet.google.com/wxp-wtju-jzw ?
> 
> I assume that room cannot be joined when you are not around (e.g., using it
> right now makes me "Ask to join"). Can that be changed?

Yeah, it can be changed.  I did it for the PUCK Meet, but I forget the exact steps :-)

> Otherwise, I think I can provide a room (Red Hat is using Google Mail/Meet
> etc.)
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> 
> David / dhildenb
> 

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[Ackerley Tng]

David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:

> On 10.10.24 19:14, Ackerley Tng wrote:
>> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Ahoihoi,
>>>
>>> while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was
>>> raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the
>>> development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
>>>
>>> There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being
>>> guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment
>>> call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of
>>> guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
>>>
>>> So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing
>>> development of guest_memfd, in particular:
>>>
>>> (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
>>>       of mmap() support ? ;) )
>>> (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
>>> (3) Cover future ideas and directions
>>> (4) Whatever else makes sense
>>>
>>> Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the
>>> hot topics at LPC ;)
>>>
>>> I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7),
>>> starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).
>> 
>> This time works for me as well, thank you!
>> 
>>>
>>> We would be using Google Meet.
>> 
>> Thanks too! Shall we use http://meet.google.com/wxp-wtju-jzw ?
>
> I assume that room cannot be joined when you are not around (e.g., using 
> it right now makes me "Ask to join"). Can that be changed?

Thanks for testing and pointing this out! My bad. I've changed the
settings to make it open to all, and tested it using my personal gmail
account.

Please let me know if it still doesn't work for anyone!

> Otherwise, I think I can provide a room (Red Hat is using Google 
> Mail/Meet etc.)
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- 
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[Dan Williams]

David Hildenbrand wrote:
> Ahoihoi,
> 
> while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was 
> raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the 
> development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
> 
> There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being 
> guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment 
> call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of 
> guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
> 
> So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing 
> development of guest_memfd, in particular:
> 
> (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
>      of mmap() support ? ;) )
> (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
> (3) Cover future ideas and directions
> (4) Whatever else makes sense
> 
> Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the 
> hot topics at LPC ;)
> 
> I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7), 
> starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).
> 
> We would be using Google Meet.
> 
> 
> Thoughts?

Sounds like a great idea to me, thanks for setting this up!

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[Michael Roth]

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 07:50:12PM +0530, Vishal Annapurve wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 7:11 PM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ahoihoi,
> >
> > while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was
> > raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the
> > development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
> >
> > There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being
> > guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment
> > call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of
> > guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
> >
> > So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing
> > development of guest_memfd, in particular:
> >
> > (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
> >      of mmap() support ? ;) )
> > (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
> > (3) Cover future ideas and directions
> > (4) Whatever else makes sense
> >
> > Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the
> > hot topics at LPC ;)
> >
> > I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7),
> > starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).
> 
> Thanks for starting this discussion! A dedicated forum for covering
> guest memfd specific topics sounds great. Suggested time slot works
> for me.

+1

Thanks David!

-Mike

> 
> Regards,
> Vishal
> 
> >
> > We would be using Google Meet.
> >
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >
> > David / dhildenb
> >
> >
> 

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[Gupta, Pankaj]

On 10/10/2024 3:39 PM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> Ahoihoi,
> 
> while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was 
> raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the 
> development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
> 
> There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being 
> guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment 
> call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of 
> guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
> 
> So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing 
> development of guest_memfd, in particular:
> 
> (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
>      of mmap() support ? ;) )
> (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
> (3) Cover future ideas and directions
> (4) Whatever else makes sense
> 
> Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the 
> hot topics at LPC ;)
> 
> I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7), 
> starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).
> 
> We would be using Google Meet.
> 
> 
> Thoughts?

Thanks for setting this up. Want to join as well.

Best regards,
Pankaj

> 

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[Vlastimil Babka]

On 10/10/24 19:14, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
> 
>> Ahoihoi,
>>
>> while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was 
>> raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the 
>> development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
>>
>> There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being 
>> guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment 
>> call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of 
>> guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
>>
>> So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing 
>> development of guest_memfd, in particular:
>>
>> (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
>>      of mmap() support ? ;) )
>> (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
>> (3) Cover future ideas and directions
>> (4) Whatever else makes sense
>>
>> Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the 
>> hot topics at LPC ;)
>>
>> I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7), 
>> starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).

works for me!

> 
> This time works for me as well, thank you!
> 
>>
>> We would be using Google Meet.
> 
> Thanks too! Shall we use http://meet.google.com/wxp-wtju-jzw ?

So is it going to be this one?

> 
> And here's a calendar event if you'd like notifications:
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=TEMPLATE&tmeid=NDJvYjBha3FlMWpxdHFzMGNpNnQzZDk5cjBfMjAyNDEwMTdUMTYwMDAwWiBhY2tlcmxleXRuZ0Bnb29nbGUuY29t&tmsrc=ackerleytng%40google.com&scp=ALL

gcal says it cannot find such event?

>>
>>
>> Thoughts?

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[David Hildenbrand]

On 14.10.24 11:05, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 10/10/24 19:14, Ackerley Tng wrote:
>> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>>> Ahoihoi,
>>>
>>> while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was
>>> raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the
>>> development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
>>>
>>> There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being
>>> guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment
>>> call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of
>>> guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
>>>
>>> So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing
>>> development of guest_memfd, in particular:
>>>
>>> (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
>>>       of mmap() support ? ;) )
>>> (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
>>> (3) Cover future ideas and directions
>>> (4) Whatever else makes sense
>>>
>>> Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the
>>> hot topics at LPC ;)
>>>
>>> I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7),
>>> starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).
> 
> works for me!
> 
>>
>> This time works for me as well, thank you!
>>
>>>
>>> We would be using Google Meet.
>>
>> Thanks too! Shall we use http://meet.google.com/wxp-wtju-jzw ?
> 
> So is it going to be this one?

I'll follow up with a proper invitation mail today or tomorrow.

> 
>>
>> And here's a calendar event if you'd like notifications:
>> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=TEMPLATE&tmeid=NDJvYjBha3FlMWpxdHFzMGNpNnQzZDk5cjBfMjAyNDEwMTdUMTYwMDAwWiBhY2tlcmxleXRuZ0Bnb29nbGUuY29t&tmsrc=ackerleytng%40google.com&scp=ALL
> 
> gcal says it cannot find such event?

Calender needs to be public. Let me give it a try and include it in the 
mail I'll send out (then, I can also modify/cancel the event etc. ).

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[Patrick Roy]

On Thu, 2024-10-10 at 14:39 +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> Ahoihoi,
> 
> while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
> 
> There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
> 
> So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing development of guest_memfd, in particular:
> 
> (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
>     of mmap() support ? ;) )
> (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
> (3) Cover future ideas and directions
> (4) Whatever else makes sense
> 
> Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the hot topics at LPC ;)
> 
> I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7), starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).
> 
> We would be using Google Meet.
> 
> 
> Thoughts?
>

Sounds like a great idea to me, I'd also like to join :)

Best, 
Patrick

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[Suzuki K Poulose]

Hi David,


On 10/10/2024 14:39, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> Ahoihoi,
>
> while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was
> raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the
> development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
>
> There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being
> guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment
> call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of
> guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
>
> So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing
> development of guest_memfd, in particular:
>
> (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
>      of mmap() support ? ;) )
> (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
> (3) Cover future ideas and directions
> (4) Whatever else makes sense
>
> Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the
> hot topics at LPC ;)
>
> I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7),
> starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).
>
> We would be using Google Meet.

Thanks for setting this up, please could you count me in ?


Suzuki

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Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[Gavin Shan]

Hi David,

On 10/10/24 11:39 PM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> Ahoihoi,
> 
> while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
> 
> There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
> 
> So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing development of guest_memfd, in particular:
> 
> (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
>      of mmap() support ? ;) )
> (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
> (3) Cover future ideas and directions
> (4) Whatever else makes sense
> 
> Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the hot topics at LPC ;)
> 
> I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7), starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).
> 
> We would be using Google Meet.
> 
> 
> Thoughts?
> 

Thanks for organizing it. I'm intrested and please include me if there
is a invite.

Thanks,
Gavin

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[Kalra, Ashish]

On 10/10/2024 8:39 AM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> Ahoihoi,
> 
> while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
> 
> There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
> 
> So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing development of guest_memfd, in particular:
> 
> (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
>     of mmap() support ? ;) )
> (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
> (3) Cover future ideas and directions
> (4) Whatever else makes sense
> 
> Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the hot topics at LPC ;)
> 
> I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7), starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).
> 
> We would be using Google Meet.
> 
> 
> Thoughts?
> 

Thanks for setting this up. Want to join as well.

Thanks, Ashish

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[Ackerley Tng]

David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:

> Ahoihoi,
>
> while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was 
> raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the 
> development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
>
> There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being 
> guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment 
> call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of 
> guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
>
> So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing 
> development of guest_memfd, in particular:
>
> (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
>      of mmap() support ? ;) )
> (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
> (3) Cover future ideas and directions
> (4) Whatever else makes sense
>
> Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the 
> hot topics at LPC ;)
>
> I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7), 
> starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).
>
> We would be using Google Meet.
>
>
> Thoughts?

We've been taking recordings of these meetings with attendees'
permission and the recordings are kind of stuck in a Google drive
now.

People interested in watching the recordings need to request access to
the meetings.

I would like to make these recordings more public and lower
administrative overheads of requesting/giving access by hosting the
videos somewhere.

Does anyone have any suggestions/preferences on a video hosting service?

Otherwise I'll default to using YouTube since that's also where LPC and
LSF/MM videos are hosted.

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[David Hildenbrand]

On 04.11.24 21:36, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
> 
>> Ahoihoi,
>>
>> while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was
>> raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the
>> development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.
>>
>> There is a KVM upstream call, but guest_memfd is on its way of not being
>> guest_memfd specific ("library") and there is the bi-weekly MM alignment
>> call, but we're not going to hijack that meeting completely + a lot of
>> guest_memfd stuff doesn't need all the MM experts ;)
>>
>> So my proposal would be to have a bi-weekly meeting, to discuss ongoing
>> development of guest_memfd, in particular:
>>
>> (1) Organize development: (do we need 3 different implementation
>>       of mmap() support ? ;) )
>> (2) Discuss current progress and challenges
>> (3) Cover future ideas and directions
>> (4) Whatever else makes sense
>>
>> Topic-wise it's relatively clear: guest_memfd extensions were one of the
>> hot topics at LPC ;)
>>
>> I would suggest every second Thursdays from 9:00 - 10:00am PDT (GMT-7),
>> starting Thursday next week (2024-10-17).
>>
>> We would be using Google Meet.
>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
> 
> We've been taking recordings of these meetings with attendees'
> permission and the recordings are kind of stuck in a Google drive
> now.
> 
> People interested in watching the recordings need to request access to
> the meetings.
> 
> I would like to make these recordings more public and lower
> administrative overheads of requesting/giving access by hosting the
> videos somewhere.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions/preferences on a video hosting service?
> 
> Otherwise I'll default to using YouTube since that's also where LPC and
> LSF/MM videos are hosted.

Makes sense to me, but I would like for them to only be detectable via 
link, not via the youtube search.

We could add links to the gdoc notes.

Let's discuss that today in the call real quick.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb

Re: Proposal: bi-weekly guest_memfd upstream call

[Amit Shah]

On Mon, 2024-11-04 at 20:36 +0000, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > Ahoihoi,
> > 
> > while talking to a bunch of folks at LPC about guest_memfd, it was 
> > raised that there isn't really a place for people to discuss the 
> > development of guest_memfd on a regular basis.

[...]

Please add me to the meeting invite.

Thanks,
		Amit