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From: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Varad Gautam <varad.gautam@suse.com>,
	Dario Faggioli <dfaggioli@suse.com>,
	Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv4 1/8] mm: Add support for unaccepted memory
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 13:55:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b33c1fbe-a7b5-f5b0-5dc6-f017f5cfc7f4@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fae338db-f892-b234-6918-227219e45cbe@intel.com>

On 4/11/22 11:27, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 4/11/22 08:55, Borislav Petkov wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 11:41:57PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> Let's just call out the possible (probable?) need for new ABI here.
>>> Maybe it will cue folks who care to speak up.
>> Err, why would you teach the user to go poke at some arbitrary sysfs
>> nodes when the accepting code can simply issue a printk from time to
>> time
>>
>>    "Guest unnaccepted memory progress: XX%. This slows down operations at the moment."
> 
> I guess that's not a horrible place to start.  It's also not *horribly*
> different from how guests work today.  If hosts lazily allocate RAM,
> they'll see largely the same kind of behavior.
> 
> What ends up determining how much memory is pre-accepted versus being
> done from the guest?  Is that just a normal part of setting up a TDX
> guest, like from the qemu cmdline?  Or, is there some convention with
> the virtual firmware?

With SNP, some memory will be accepted as part of the LAUNCH_UPDATE 
sequences that the hypervisor performs, but that is not all of the guest 
memory. Once the guest is started, the (initial implementation of) OVMF 
SNP support will accept (PVALIDATE) all of the remaining guest memory. 
When the kernel boots, there isn't any unaccepted memory.

Once support is available in the kernel for unaccepted memory, then OVMF 
could be updated to only accept a limited amount of memory and pass the 
information about the unaccepted memory to the kernel through the EFI 
memory map.

The approaches would have to be measured to see which ends up being the 
best one. The GHCB specification allows for lots of memory to be accepted 
in a single VMGEXIT (world switch) vs performing a VMGEXIT for each 2MB of 
memory being accepted.

Thanks,
Tom

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-11 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-05 23:43 [PATCHv4 0/8] mm, x86/cc: Implement support for unaccepted memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-05 23:43 ` [PATCHv4 1/8] mm: Add " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-08 18:55   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-09 15:54     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-11  6:38       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-11 10:07         ` Mike Rapoport
2022-04-13 11:40           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-13 14:48             ` Mike Rapoport
2022-04-13 15:15               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-13 20:06                 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-04-11  8:47       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-08 19:04   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-08 19:11   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-09 17:52     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-11  6:41       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-11 15:55         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-11 16:27           ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-11 18:55             ` Tom Lendacky [this message]
2022-04-12  8:15     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-12 16:08       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-13 10:36         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-13 11:30           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-13 11:32             ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-13 15:36             ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-13 16:07               ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-13 16:13                 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-13 16:24               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-13 14:39           ` Mike Rapoport
2022-04-05 23:43 ` [PATCHv4 2/8] efi/x86: Get full memory map in allocate_e820() Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-13  9:59   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-13 11:45     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-05 23:43 ` [PATCHv4 3/8] efi/x86: Implement support for unaccepted memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-08 17:26   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-09 19:41     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-14 15:55     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-15 22:24   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-18 15:55     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-18 16:38       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-18 20:24         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-18 21:01           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-18 23:50             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-19  7:39               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-19 15:30                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-19 16:38                   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-19 19:23                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-21 12:26                 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-22  0:21                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-22  9:30                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-22 13:26                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-05 23:43 ` [PATCHv4 4/8] x86/boot/compressed: Handle " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-08 17:57   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-09 20:20     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-11  6:49       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-05 23:43 ` [PATCHv4 5/8] x86/mm: Reserve unaccepted memory bitmap Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-08 18:08   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-09 20:43     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-05 23:43 ` [PATCHv4 6/8] x86/mm: Provide helpers for unaccepted memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-08 18:15   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-08 19:21   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-13 16:08     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-05 23:43 ` [PATCHv4 7/8] x86/tdx: Unaccepted memory support Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-08 18:28   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-05 23:43 ` [PATCHv4 8/8] mm/vmstat: Add counter for memory accepting Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-12  8:18   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-08 17:02 ` [PATCHv4 0/8] mm, x86/cc: Implement support for unaccepted memory Dave Hansen
2022-04-09 23:44   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-21 12:29     ` Borislav Petkov

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