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From: "Moger, Babu" <babu.moger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	tony.luck@intel.com, Dave.Martin@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, bp@alien8.de
Cc: kas@kernel.org, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs/resctrl: Fix MBM events being unconditionally enabled in mbm_event mode
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2025 15:38:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b86dca12-bccc-46b1-8466-998357deae69@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a8f30dba-8319-4ce4-918c-288934be456e@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,

On 10/6/25 12:56, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
> 
> On 9/30/25 1:26 PM, Babu Moger wrote:
>> resctrl features can be enabled or disabled using boot-time kernel
>> parameters. To turn off the memory bandwidth events (mbmtotal and
>> mbmlocal), users need to pass the following parameter to the kernel:
>> "rdt=!mbmtotal,!mbmlocal".
> 
> ah, indeed ... although, the intention behind the mbmtotal and mbmlocal kernel
> parameters was to connect them to the actual hardware features identified
> by X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_TOTAL and X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_LOCAL respectively.
> 
> 
>> Found that memory bandwidth events (mbmtotal and mbmlocal) cannot be
>> disabled when mbm_event mode is enabled. resctrl_mon_resource_init()
>> unconditionally enables these events without checking if the underlying
>> hardware supports them.
> 
> Technically this is correct since if hardware supports ABMC then the
> hardware is no longer required to support X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_TOTAL and
> X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_LOCAL in order to provide mbm_total_bytes
> and mbm_local_bytes. 
> 
> I can see how this may be confusing to user space though ...
> 
>>
>> Remove the unconditional enablement of MBM features in
>> resctrl_mon_resource_init() to fix the problem. The hardware support
>> verification is already done in get_rdt_mon_resources().
> 
> I believe by "hardware support" you mean hardware support for 
> X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_TOTAL and X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_LOCAL. Wouldn't a fix like
> this then require any system that supports ABMC to also support
> X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_TOTAL and X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_LOCAL to be able to 
> support mbm_total_bytes and mbm_local_bytes?

Yes. That is correct. Right now, ABMC and X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_TOTAL/
X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_LOCAL are kind of tightly coupled. We have not clearly
separated the that.

> 
> This problem seems to be similar to the one solved by [1] since
> by supporting ABMC there is no "hardware does not support mbmtotal/mbmlocal"
> but instead there only needs to be a check if the feature has been disabled
> by command line. That is, add a rdt_is_feature_enabled() check to the
> existing "!resctrl_is_mon_event_enabled()" check?

Enable or disable needs to be done at get_rdt_mon_resources(). It needs to
be done early in  the initialization before calling domain_add_cpu() where
event data structures (mbm_states aarch_mbm_states) are allocated.

> 
> But wait ... I think there may be a bigger problem when considering systems
> that support ABMC but not X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_TOTAL and X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_LOCAL.
> Shouldn't resctrl prevent such a system from switching to "default" 
> mbm_assign_mode? Otherwise resctrl will happily let such a system switch
> to default mode and when user attempts to read an event file resctrl will
> attempt to read it via MSRs that are not supported.
> Looks like ABMC may need something similar to CONFIG_RESCTRL_ASSIGN_FIXED
> to handle this case in show() while preventing user space from switching to
> "default" mode on write()?

This may not be an issue right now. When X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_TOTAL and
X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_LOCAL are not supported then mon_data files of these
events are not created.

> 
> Reinette
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250925200328.64155-23-tony.luck@intel.com/
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Thanks
Babu Moger


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-06 20:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-30 20:26 [PATCH] fs/resctrl: Fix MBM events being unconditionally enabled in mbm_event mode Babu Moger
2025-10-06 17:56 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-06 20:38   ` Moger, Babu [this message]
2025-10-07  1:23     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-07 17:36       ` Babu Moger
2025-10-08  2:38         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-14 16:24           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-14 17:38             ` Babu Moger
2025-10-14 17:43               ` Babu Moger
2025-10-14 20:57                 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-14 22:45                   ` Moger, Babu
2025-10-14 23:09                     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-15 14:55                       ` Moger, Babu
2025-10-15 19:56                         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-15 20:37                           ` Moger, Babu

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