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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 02/15] x86/tdx: Add TDCM hypercall wrapper for TDX Connect
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2026 09:27:24 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c5105600-e7e6-4727-8a25-141955bc433c@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <IA3PR11MB91362D1D89BF53AE630A9567929D2@IA3PR11MB9136.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On 14.10.26 г. 9:19 ч., Duan, Zhenzhong wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>
>> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 02/15] x86/tdx: Add TDCM hypercall wrapper for TDX
>> Connect
>>
>>
>>
>> On 24.09.26 г. 7:10 ч., Zhenzhong Duan wrote:
>>> TDX Connect is a TDX feature that enables secure device assignment,
>>> allowing a TDX guest to directly interact with TEE-IO capable devices.
>>>
>>> The TEE-IO Device Control and Management (TDCM) hypercall
>>> (TDG.VP.VMCALL<TDCM>, defined in TDX GHCI v2.0 specification) is the
>>> primary interface through which a TDX guest issues device management
>>> commands to the host. The host processes these commands and returns
>>> responses via a shared memory buffer.
>>
>> This patch contradicts what's going in patch 5. Because you make it
>> sound as if TDCM is yet another leaf of VP.VMCALL, but then in patch 5
>> you introduce the polling code to read the result. And there is not
>> enough information in the changelogs to understand why this added
>> complexity is needed. Isn't TDCM handled synchronously by the VMM as the
>> rest of the tdcalls, is it perhaps handled by TDX NRX module?
>
> TDG.VP.VMCALL<TDCM> is the leaf used to submit a TDCM request. The VMM’s
> return from that VMCALL acknowledges the request; it does not
> necessarily mean the device-management operation has completed. GHCI
> defines asynchronous completion for potentially long-running operations.
But this is essentially an implementation detail, and currently we don't
have the host implementation. In that case this choice must be spelled out.
>
> GHCI describes polling the shared status and event notification as
> completion mechanisms. This series uses polling with a timeout; it does
> not use event notification. TDCM is not implemented by the NRX module,
> although some host-side operations initiated by TDCM may use NRX
> internally.
Right, those operation falls within the TDX connect spec. And TDCM is
just a subset of the VP.VMCALL interface used for tdx connect
management, in that sense it's not a "separate entity" i.e a discrete
module but just a collection of functionality, implemented in the VMM?
>
> I’ll clarify the submission-versus-completion distinction in this
> patch’s changelog and explain the polling choice in patch 5.
>
> Thanks
> Zhenzhong
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-14 6:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-24 4:10 [RFC PATCH 00/15] PCI/TSM: coco/tdx-guest: Implement TDX-Connect PCIe TDISP (phase2) Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 01/15] x86/tdx: Export tdg_vm_rd() for tdx-guest module Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-30 22:13 ` Peter Fang
2026-10-01 12:38 ` Xu Yilun
2026-10-08 6:45 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:30 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 02/15] x86/tdx: Add TDCM hypercall wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-13 14:34 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14 6:19 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-14 6:27 ` Nikolay Borisov [this message]
2026-10-14 7:22 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 03/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.TDI.RD module call " Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-25 0:06 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08 6:27 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:42 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-09 2:28 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 04/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support devsec TSM for secure devices Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 05/15] virt: tdx-guest: Add TDCM helpers and TEE-IO support check Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-13 14:31 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14 6:11 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-14 12:52 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 06/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support TDI bind and unbind operations Zhenzhong Duan
2026-10-13 12:10 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14 3:06 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-14 6:32 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-10-14 7:33 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 07/15] PCI/TSM: Track Device Interface Report MMIO range index Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 08/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.MMIO.ACCEPT module call wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 23:41 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-25 0:02 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08 6:01 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:47 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08 5:49 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-10-08 16:44 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-09 2:16 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 09/15] virt: tdx-guest: Capture the TDI report during device lock Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 10/15] virt: tdx-guest: Set up and accept private MMIO ranges Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 11/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.TDI.START module call wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 12/15] virt: tdx-guest: Support Trust Device Interface (TDI) activation Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 13/15] x86/tdx: Add __tdcall_saved() helper Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 14/15] x86/tdx: Add TDG.DMAR.ACCEPT module call wrapper for TDX Connect Zhenzhong Duan
2026-09-24 4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 15/15] virt: tdx-guest: Accept default DMAR entry during PCI driver attach Zhenzhong Duan
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