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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Peter Fang <peter.fang@intel.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] virt: tdx-guest: Allocate Quote buffer dynamically
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 06:48:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d88fe58e-5963-49a5-86a4-6a9779d06109@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260721064907.GG3178326@pedri>

On 7/20/26 23:49, Peter Fang wrote:
...
>> This is all talking about post-quantum-crypto and all that fancy stuff.
>>
>> Isn't the important part here that the old TDX module ABI had static
>> quote sizes and now they're dynamic? Now, the reason it changed is all
>> the fancy stuff.
>>
>> But the ABI changed. Right?
> 
> Ah yes... I should call out that the size of
> /sys/kernel/config/tsm/report/$name/outblob will no longer be fixed.
> I'll update this. Thanks.

No. I mean the TDX Module ABI changed.

That's why we need new kernel patches.
>> The host may be untrusted, but it's also a critical part of the system.
>> Are we sure we want to be completely quiet?
>>
>> I used to see little dmesg warnings about TCP window shenanigans from
>> random systems on the Internet. Maybe that's not how we do things today,
>> but if a random dude on the Internet can spew one line to dmesg, is it
>> that crazy that a bad VMM be able to spew a warning?
> 
> That makes sense... I actually argued with AI about this but it kept
> saying this is kind of like DoSing the guest. But thinking about it
> more, tainting the guest is probably the right thing to do... At least
> the guest sees a big splat about why attestation is failing. I'll remove
> the __GFP_NOWARN. Thanks.

This does seem like the kind of high-level TDX policy that we all need
to be aligned on and probably document somewhere. The basic question is
whether a TDX guest should be quiet or verbose in the face of host
malfunction or malfeasance.

Kirill and Rick, what do you think?

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-21 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-17 21:43 [PATCH v2 0/2] tdx-guest: Make Quote buffer size dynamic Peter Fang
2026-07-17 21:43 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] x86/tdx: Add helper to query maximum TD Quote size Peter Fang
2026-07-17 21:43 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] virt: tdx-guest: Allocate Quote buffer dynamically Peter Fang
2026-07-20 13:35   ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-21  6:49     ` Peter Fang
2026-07-21 13:48       ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2026-07-21 16:43         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-07-22  7:36           ` Peter Fang
2026-07-22  6:39         ` Peter Fang

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