From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Microcai Subject: Re: VT console need rewrite Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 09:14:04 +0800 Message-ID: <1290993244.877.3.camel@cai.gentoo> References: <1290941875.13526.15.camel@cai.gentoo> <73BC440E-833E-4E1B-ACCC-5D68BAB89D83@mit.edu> <1290951770.13526.18.camel@cai.gentoo> <20101129020610.7ea7c79e.lisa@ltmnet.com> <1290961207.13526.31.camel@cai.gentoo> <20101128194624.GP2767@thunk.org> Reply-To: microcai@fedoraproject.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Return-path: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:subject:from:reply-to :to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:organization:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=r2UaVwJrsH/WgtZBiXo+p3qKpdaTK/LmR8k/Eo1CYGs=; b=wdBVb4/MvcmjYQ9Irwhr4gBvhkzlHOj9jCDaJY8IRUfuSI1vg1y6AqadjK/P4EECTf 8AVVxg/nmL4LgA8E1THfBUDQBTmjEg7HNyOub59Ww1NEfUHPM7oB5hifrSujToYoXPhx M3ZyFHebArP3g4nzA+Nzcfo1p00wWkxiMUL/o= In-Reply-To: <20101128194624.GP2767@thunk.org> Sender: linux-console-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" To: Ted Ts'o Cc: Lisa Milne , "jonsmirl@gmail.com" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-console@vger.kernel.org =E5=9C=A8 2010-11-28=E6=97=A5=E7=9A=84 14:46 -0500=EF=BC=8CTed Ts'o=E5=86= =99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:20:07AM +0800, Microcai wrote: > >=20 > > > Another possible model: split the current system in 2, so there's= a > > > bytestream handler, and a vt-legacy module. Then use the interfac= e > > > between bytestream/legacy as an interface for future vt-kernel an= d > > > vt-user modules. > >=20 > > this may cause early printk stop working.=20 >=20 > Let's start by asking a much more fundamental question; what the heck > are your goals? >=20 > If the main goal of the console is emergency debugging when the syste= m > is in a very bad state (i.e., trashed initrd, etc.) do we really even > need Unicode support? >=20 > How many people do regular login, development, reading e-mail, etc., > on the console? Very few! If the answer is because you hate X, as > you've already pointed out, we already have fbterm. Where is it > written that we need to have a full unicode-capable console system? > Why is this so important; especially if doing this is going to be ver= y > difficult, and risks breaking lots of stuff if we try to mess with it= ? >=20 > - Ted Hey, my old patch already did it , and do not break any old stuff. Question is , the VT code *is really very old*.=20 Just want to simplify the code, remove old stuff, make it future compatible. Forward compatibility is more important than backward one =20 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-console= " in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html