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From: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: add key wrapping block chaining mode
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 16:11:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12434918.9URe3Fjl50@myon.chronox.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5036814.6LNlN5eOjK@myon.chronox.de>

Am Mittwoch, 22. April 2015, 14:23:04 schrieb Stephan Mueller:

Hi,

> Am Mittwoch, 22. April 2015, 14:13:54 schrieb Herbert Xu:
> 
> Hi Herbert,
> 
> > On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 01:53:24PM +0800, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 06:36:59AM +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> > > > The key wrapping is an authenticated encryption operation without
> > > > associated data. Therefore, setting of AAD is permissible, but that
> > > > data
> > > > is not used by the cipher implementation.
> > > 
> > > In that case you should return an error if AAD is provided rather
> > > than silently discarding them since by definition AEAD must include
> > > the AAD in the integrity value.
> > 
> > In fact drop the AEAD altogether and just use ablkcipher.  The
> > integrity value is then simply the output IV.
> 
> Initially I was playing with ablkcipher. But then I moved to AEAD because
> the ciphertext is longer than the plaintext.
> 
> Isn't it a basic assumption to ablkcipher is that the ciphertext is equal in
> size as the plaintext?

One more issue to consider: the key wrapping is an authenticated encryption / 
decryption. Thus, decryption can return EBADMSG, a feature a normal blkcipher 
does not do.

Key wrap is more than a blkcipher, but less than an AEAD. Thus, I would 
consider the key wrapping as a speciality of AEAD where the "AD" part is 
simply NULL (a valid use case of the "regular" AEAD ciphers).


-- 
Ciao
Stephan

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-22 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-22  4:36 [PATCH] crypto: add key wrapping block chaining mode Stephan Mueller
2015-04-22  5:48 ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-22 12:44   ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-23  1:39     ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-23  1:40       ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-22  5:53 ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-22  6:13   ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-22 12:23     ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-22 14:11       ` Stephan Mueller [this message]
2015-04-23  1:37         ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-23  1:33       ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-23  1:39         ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-23  1:46           ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-23  1:58             ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-23  2:03               ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-23  2:51             ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-23  2:55               ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-23 13:42                 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-23 23:21                   ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-24  0:22                     ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-24  0:24                       ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-22  6:06 ` Herbert Xu

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