From: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] crypto: drbg - replace spinlock with mutex
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 17:37:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1695105.vT0DvueDZS@myon.chronox.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150419054803.GA11255@gondor.apana.org.au>
Am Sonntag, 19. April 2015, 13:48:03 schrieb Herbert Xu:
Hi Herbert,
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 01:35:40PM +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> > When you do that, may I ask you to also update the crypto_alloc_rng. This
> > function has one major drawback at the moment: we are wasting precious
> > entropy. The testmgr must allocate the RNG for performing its testing
> > using
> > crypto_alloc_rng. As the RNG implementation has no knowledge at allocation
> > time that it will be used for testing, it will seed itself for the real
> > work. Then comes testing: the seeded RNG is now reset with the test
> > "entropy" and thereby wasting the initial seed.
>
> Yes the DRBG will be unusable when first allocated and you must
> seed it to actually draw entropy and be able to use it.
I am not sure I understand you correctly: shall the DRBG have these
precautions? If so, wouldn't we break the requirements in SP800-90A where the
DRBG is intended to seed itself?
Or would you want to update the crypto_alloc_rng routine?
>
> Cheers,
--
Ciao
Stephan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-19 15:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-17 12:53 [PATCH 0/4] crypto: drbg - revamp locking Stephan Mueller
2015-04-17 12:54 ` [PATCH 1/4] cryoto: drbg - clear all temporary memory Stephan Mueller
2015-04-18 10:59 ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-17 12:54 ` [PATCH 2/4] crypto: drbg - do not create shadow copy Stephan Mueller
2015-04-18 10:49 ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-18 12:51 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-17 12:55 ` [PATCH 3/4] crypto: drbg - replace spinlock with mutex Stephan Mueller
2015-04-18 10:55 ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-18 11:35 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-19 5:48 ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-19 15:37 ` Stephan Mueller [this message]
2015-04-20 0:27 ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-20 0:45 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-20 0:48 ` Herbert Xu
2015-04-20 0:51 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 4/4] crypto: drbg - leave cipher handles operational Stephan Mueller
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