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From: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	Sebastian Siewior <linux-crypto@ml.breakpoint.cc>
Subject: Re: IV copy strategy
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:38:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071119103840.GC2048@2ka.mipt.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071118065237.GA26456@gondor.apana.org.au>

On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 02:52:37PM +0800, Herbert Xu (herbert@gondor.apana.org.au) wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 02:11:10PM +0300, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> >
> > That's a question - should it copy IV back or not?
> > Currently it is not required by crypto users.
> 
> OK I've changed my mind :)
> 
> The reason is CTR, or rather the CTR as used by IPsec.  CTR
> itself should be able to chain, in fact one of the things I'll
> do later is to move most of the current CTR code into a chainable
> CTR with just the algorithm parameter, i.e., ctr(aes) which would
> be what we currently call ctr(0,16,16).  We can then put a non-
> chainable wrapper around that, perhaps ctr-ipsec(aes).
> 
> In any case, it is clear that some algorithms simply won't be
> able to chain because the IV exposed to the outside is not the
> complete IV.
> 
> So my plan is to add a new flag, CRYPTO_ALG_CIPHER_NOCHAIN that
> you would set on algorithms that cannot be chained.  The semantics
> is that everything else remains the same except that on encrypt
> calls, the req->info after completion is undefined.
> 
> Users requiring chaining would then do
> 
> 	crypto_alloc_blkcipher("foo", 0, CRYPTO_ALG_CIPHER_NOCHAIN)

Hmm, users who want chaining will set flag _NOCHAIN :)
I would call it something more informative...

> For hardware offload devices such as yours where chaining does
> not come naturally you could then elect to not implement chaining
> and just set the flag.
> 
> Please let me know if you see any problems with this approach.

I'm not sure what user will do, when it request chaining, but driver
will set CRYPTO_ALG_CIPHER_NOCHAIN itself and return wrong/old in
req->info?
For IPsec it is not an issue though, but I can not say that for all.

-- 
	Evgeniy Polyakov

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-19 10:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-13 23:11 IV copy strategy Sebastian Siewior
2007-11-14 14:22 ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-15 21:10   ` Sebastian Siewior
2007-11-16  2:08     ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-16  8:19       ` Sebastian Siewior
2007-11-16  9:30         ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-16 11:11       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-11-16 11:25         ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-16 11:42           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-11-16 13:47             ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-18  6:52         ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-18  6:53           ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-19 10:38           ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2007-11-19 11:56             ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-20 14:23               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-11-26  9:10       ` Sebastian Siewior
2007-11-15 21:23   ` [PATCH] [crypto] geode: do not copy the IV too often Sebastian Siewior
2007-11-18 13:41     ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-26  9:25     ` Sebastian Siewior
2007-11-26  9:28       ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-26  9:42         ` Sebastian Siewior
2007-11-27 19:33           ` Sebastian Siewior
2007-11-30  5:37             ` Herbert Xu

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