From: Phil Carmody <pc+lkml@asdf.org>
To: smueller@chronox.de
Cc: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Entropy generator with 100 kB/s throughput
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:07:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130221140712.GA11550@fatphil.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51157686.9000404@chronox.de>
Apologies if this is misthreaded, I had to hand-craft the headers.
> The patch offers an entropy generator based on CPU timing jitter. The
> entropy collector has the following properties:
>
> * it does not maintain any state and therefore does not need any seed
What is this "pool" if it's not "state"?
> /* Entropy pool of the RNG which is filled upon each request for entropy */
> struct rand_data
And, from looking at jitterentropy_entropy_calc(), it seems to think that
the [source producing the] following sequence of timestamps:
1000, 1010, 1030, 1050, 1060, 1080, 1090, 1110, 1120, ...
i.e. with absolutely metronomic deltas of 10, 20, 10, 20, 10, 20, ...
has 4 bit of entropy per reading. I hope I don't have to explicitly say
that it clearly it has 0 bits of entropy.
Entropy harvesting is quite hard - entropy estimation is unimaginably harder.
Phil
--
"In a world of magnets and miracles"
-- Insane Clown Posse, Miracles, 2009. Much derided.
"Magnets, how do they work"
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-21 14:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-08 22:04 [RFC][PATCH] Entropy generator with 100 kB/s throughput Stephan Mueller
2013-02-09 18:06 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-10 1:57 ` Jeff Epler
2013-02-10 12:46 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-02-10 15:53 ` Jeff Epler
2013-02-10 18:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-10 19:27 ` Sandy Harris
2013-02-10 19:32 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-02-10 21:59 ` Sandy Harris
2013-02-11 0:05 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-10 12:25 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-02-21 14:07 ` Phil Carmody [this message]
2013-02-21 14:17 ` Stephan Mueller
2013-02-21 17:46 ` Sandy Harris
2013-02-21 20:30 ` Theodore Ts'o
[not found] ` <CAFtRNNzcUpxT3R6ttUJ0c-7QTVRxbwRVq6bPqvkSL93vbstT4g@mail.gmail.com>
2013-02-22 11:14 ` Nick Kossifidis
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