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From: Jason Cooper <jason-NLaQJdtUoK4Be96aLqz0jA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Pan, Miaoqing" <miaoqing-Rm6X0d1/PG5y9aJCnZT0Uw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Stephan Mueller
	<smueller-T9tCv8IpfcWELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>,
	Herbert Xu
	<herbert-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm-VDJrAJ4Gl5ZBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"miaoqing-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org"
	<miaoqing-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Valo, Kalle" <kvalo-A+ZNKFmMK5xy9aJCnZT0Uw@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	ath9k-devel <ath9k-devel-A+ZNKFmMK5xy9aJCnZT0Uw@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-crypto-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-crypto-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Sepehrdad,
	Pouyan" <pouyans-Rm6X0d1/PG5y9aJCnZT0Uw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ath9k: disable RNG by default
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 13:24:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160810132449.GH2013@io.lakedaemon.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <389c3c1fdde2447aacf31a8b4aadfc08-fhY3XlRGNI1pWAYlkNb9jaRtKmQZhJ7pQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>

Hi Miaoqing Pan, Stephen,

*gentle reminder: others are reading which may not be directly included
in the conversation.  Including the archives.  Please avoid top posting.
:)

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 07:43:45AM +0000, Pan, Miaoqing wrote:
> The problem with using the add_device_randomness is that we do not
> know when to call that API, and we have to make our solution either
> timer-based or interrupt based, which is not really the correct way of
> implementing this feature.

Exactly.  I think we're dancing around the problem by discussing the
quality of what the ath9k adc provides.

The fact is, barring userspace expectations of /dev/hwrng, hw_random is
the appropriate place for it.  It's not a devicetree blob, mac address,
or pci config space.  Which are things we feed in once for the heck of
it.  This is a *continuous* source or questionable quality.

I'm seriously considering putting this and timeriomem-rng into a
subdirectory under hw_random/, maybe environ/.  Anything in there gets
quality=0 for default, and *doesn't* contribute to /dev/hwrng.

Regardless which path we take, I think we should include 'adc' in the
name.  I've heard countless times about "Atheros cards come with an rng
on board". :-/

thx,

Jason.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-10 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-09  7:02 [PATCH 1/2] ath9k: change entropy formula for easier understanding miaoqing
2016-08-09  7:02 ` [PATCH 2/2] ath9k: disable RNG by default miaoqing
     [not found]   ` <1470726147-30095-2-git-send-email-miaoqing-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-09  7:14     ` Stephan Mueller
2016-08-09  7:35       ` Pan, Miaoqing
2016-08-09  8:07         ` Stephan Mueller
2016-08-09  8:58           ` Herbert Xu
2016-08-09  9:02             ` Stephan Mueller
     [not found]               ` <2569442.q63FVBJjUH-gNvIQDDl/k7Ia13z/PHSgg@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-09  9:17                 ` Herbert Xu
     [not found]                   ` <20160809091755.GA6370-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-09  9:37                     ` Stephan Mueller
2016-08-09  9:46                       ` Herbert Xu
2016-08-09  9:56                         ` Stephan Mueller
2016-08-09  9:56                           ` Herbert Xu
2016-08-09 10:06                             ` Stephan Mueller
     [not found]                               ` <11316081.S4pPZmZMrt-gNvIQDDl/k7Ia13z/PHSgg@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-09 10:24                                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2016-08-09 17:51                                   ` Jason Cooper
     [not found]                       ` <1645997.7cVzaEi3NG-gNvIQDDl/k7Ia13z/PHSgg@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-10  2:35                         ` Pan, Miaoqing
     [not found]                           ` <1470796501856.53342-Rm6X0d1/PG5y9aJCnZT0Uw@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-10  5:29                             ` Stephan Mueller
     [not found]                               ` <1543667.vXsZDTRgbm-jJGQKZiSfeo1haGO/jJMPxvVK+yQ3ZXh@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-10  6:04                                 ` Pan, Miaoqing
2016-08-10  6:25                                   ` Stephan Mueller
     [not found]                                     ` <14565196.xaXq375WQg-gNvIQDDl/k7Ia13z/PHSgg@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-10  6:46                                       ` Pan, Miaoqing
2016-08-10  6:51                                         ` Stephan Mueller
2016-08-10  7:15                                           ` Pan, Miaoqing
     [not found]                                             ` <c0951e085764481d8d85637734e2e14b-fhY3XlRGNI1pWAYlkNb9jaRtKmQZhJ7pQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-10  7:27                                               ` Stephan Mueller
     [not found]                                                 ` <4321952.1nMxxDi7Wz-jJGQKZiSfeo1haGO/jJMPxvVK+yQ3ZXh@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-10  7:40                                                   ` Pan, Miaoqing
     [not found]                                                     ` <1e8e88ad7de64c528f08c75ff9176ab8-fhY3XlRGNI1pWAYlkNb9jaRtKmQZhJ7pQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-10  7:43                                                       ` Pan, Miaoqing
     [not found]                                                         ` <389c3c1fdde2447aacf31a8b4aadfc08-fhY3XlRGNI1pWAYlkNb9jaRtKmQZhJ7pQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-10 13:24                                                           ` Jason Cooper [this message]
2016-08-11  2:54                                                             ` miaoqing
     [not found]                                                               ` <14a3879458f3bfc36068c2e8294ca448-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-11 13:14                                                                 ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-09 17:48     ` Jason Cooper
2016-09-28 10:00   ` [2/2] " Kalle Valo
     [not found] ` <1470726147-30095-1-git-send-email-miaoqing-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-27 14:53   ` [1/2] ath9k: change entropy formula for easier understanding Kalle Valo
2016-10-13 14:23   ` Kalle Valo

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