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From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
To: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Cc: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>,
	Harsh Jain <harsh@chelsio.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linuxarm@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: AF_ALG AIO - lock context IV
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 10:25:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180201102519.000044c1@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOtvUMe8gqBJtFjkO-Jssw1Q32GdR0oZNPRitt81skKO2f_+yg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 12:07:21 +0200
Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de> wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 1. Februar 2018, 10:35:07 CET schrieb Gilad Ben-Yossef:
> >
> > Hi Gilad,
> >  
> >> >
> >> > Which works well for the sort of optimization I did and for hardware that
> >> > can do iv dependency tracking itself. If hardware dependency tracking was
> >> > avilable, you would be able to queue up requests with a chained IV
> >> > without taking any special precautions at all. The hardware would
> >> > handle the IV update dependencies.
> >> >
> >> > So in conclusion, Stephan's approach should work and give us a nice
> >> > small patch suitable for stable inclusion.
> >> >
> >> > However, if people know that their setup overhead can be put in parallel
> >> > with previous requests (even when the IV is not yet updated) then they
> >> > will
> >> > probably want to do something inside their own driver and set the flag
> >> > that Stephan is proposing adding to bypass the mutex approach.  
> >>
> >> The patches from Stephan looks good to me, but I think we can do better
> >> for the long term approach you are discussing.  
> >
> > What you made me think of is the following: shouldn't we relay the inline IV
> > flag on to the crypto drivers?
> >
> > The reason is to allow a clean implementation of the enabling or disabling of
> > the dependency handling in the driver. Jonathan's driver, for example, decides
> > based on the pointer value of the IV buffer whether it is the same buffer and
> > thus dependency handling is to be applied. This is fragile.

I agree it's inelegant and a flag would be better than pointer tricks (though
they are safe currently - we never know what might change in future)
It was really a minimal example rather than a suggestion of the ultimate
solution ;)  I was planning on suggesting a flag myself once the basic
discussion concluded the approach was worthwhile.

> >
> > As AF_ALG knows whether the inline IV with separate IVs per request or the
> > serialization with one IV buffer for all requests is requested, it should
> > relay this state on to the drivers. Thus, for example, Jonathan's driver can
> > be changed to rely on this flag instead on the buffer pointer value to decide
> > whether to enable its dependency handling.  
> 
> Yes, that is exactly what I was trying to point out :-)

Agreed - make things explicit rather than basically relying on knowing how
the above layers are working.

Thanks,

Jonathan

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-01 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-12 13:21 [RFC] AF_ALG AIO and IV Stephan Mueller
2018-01-15  9:35 ` [PATCH] crypto: AF_ALG - inline IV support Stephan Mueller
2018-01-21 12:14   ` Stephan Müller
2018-01-23 11:02     ` Harsh Jain
2018-01-30  8:27       ` [PATCH] crypto: AF_ALG AIO - lock context IV Stephan Müller
2018-01-30 14:04         ` Stephan Mueller
2018-01-30 15:51         ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-01-31 12:29           ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-02-01  9:35             ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2018-02-01  9:46               ` Stephan Mueller
2018-02-01 10:06                 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2018-02-01 10:15                   ` Stephan Mueller
2018-02-01 10:04               ` Stephan Mueller
2018-02-01 10:07                 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2018-02-01 10:25                   ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2018-02-01 10:55                     ` Harsh Jain
2018-02-07  7:42                     ` [PATCH v2 0/4] crypto: AF_ALG AIO improvements Stephan Müller
2018-02-07  7:43                       ` [PATCH v2 1/4] crypto: AF_ALG AIO - lock context IV Stephan Müller
2018-02-07  7:43                       ` [PATCH v2 2/4] crypto: AF_ALG - inline IV support Stephan Müller
2018-02-07 13:54                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-02-07 14:01                           ` Stephan Müller
2018-02-07  7:43                       ` [PATCH v2 3/4] crypto: AF_ALG - allow driver to serialize IV access Stephan Müller
2018-02-07  7:44                       ` [PATCH v2 4/4] crypto: add CRYPTO_TFM_REQ_PARALLEL flag Stephan Müller
2018-02-07 12:48                         ` Stephan Mueller
2018-02-07 15:39                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-02-07 15:43                             ` Stephan Mueller
2018-02-07 16:14                               ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-02-07 16:25                                 ` Stephan Mueller
2018-02-07  8:52                       ` [PATCH v2 0/4] crypto: AF_ALG AIO improvements Harsh Jain
2018-02-07 15:37                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-02-09 22:02                       ` [PATCH v3 " Stephan Müller
2018-02-09 22:03                         ` [PATCH v3 1/4] crypto: AF_ALG AIO - lock context IV Stephan Müller
2018-02-14  5:43                           ` Harsh Jain
2018-02-14 12:52                             ` Stephan Mueller
2018-02-15  5:30                               ` Harsh Jain
2018-02-15  6:28                                 ` Stephan Mueller
2018-02-15  7:03                                   ` Harsh Jain
2018-02-15  7:17                                     ` Stephan Mueller
2018-02-15 11:38                                       ` Harsh Jain
2018-02-15 11:45                                         ` Stephan Mueller
2018-02-15 12:45                                           ` Harsh Jain
2018-02-15 13:04                                             ` Stephan Mueller
2018-02-15 13:26                                               ` Jeffrey Walton
2018-02-15 18:09                                               ` Stephan Mueller
2018-02-09 22:03                         ` [PATCH v3 2/4] crypto: AF_ALG - inline IV support Stephan Müller
2018-02-09 22:04                         ` [PATCH v3 3/4] crypto: AF_ALG - allow driver to serialize IV access Stephan Müller
2018-02-09 22:04                         ` [PATCH v3 4/4] crypto: add CRYPTO_TFM_REQ_IV_SERIALIZE flag Stephan Müller
2018-02-14  5:50                           ` Harsh Jain
2018-02-14 12:47                             ` Stephan Mueller
2018-01-22 14:11   ` [PATCH] crypto: AF_ALG - inline IV support Jonathan Cameron
2018-01-22 14:30     ` Stephan Mueller
2018-01-22 14:52       ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-01-15  9:39 ` [RFC] AF_ALG AIO and IV Stephan Mueller
2018-01-15 11:05 ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-01-15 12:07   ` Stephan Mueller
2018-01-15 12:59     ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-01-15 13:15       ` Stephan Mueller
2018-01-15 14:25         ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-01-15 14:31           ` Stephan Mueller
2018-01-15 14:42             ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-01-16  6:28               ` Stephan Mueller
2018-01-16 10:51                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-01-15 14:37           ` Jonathan Cameron

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