From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Shameerali Kolothum Thodi <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org" <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
"cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
"mgurtovoy@nvidia.com" <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>,
"yishaih@nvidia.com" <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
Linuxarm <linuxarm@huawei.com>,
liulongfang <liulongfang@huawei.com>,
"Zengtao (B)" <prime.zeng@hisilicon.com>,
Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>,
"Wangzhou (B)" <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 09/10] hisi_acc_vfio_pci: Add support for VFIO live migration
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 16:39:38 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220301203938.GY219866@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220301123047.1171c730.alex.williamson@redhat.com>
On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 12:30:47PM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> Wouldn't it make more sense if initial-bytes started at QM_MATCH_SIZE
> and dirty-bytes was always sizeof(vf_data) - QM_MATCH_SIZE? ie. QEMU
> would know that it has sizeof(vf_data) - QM_MATCH_SIZE remaining even
> while it's getting ENOMSG after reading QM_MATCH_SIZE bytes of data.
The purpose of this ioctl is to help userspace guess when moving on to
STOP_COPY is a good idea ie when the device has done almost all the
work it is going to be able to do in PRE_COPY. ENOMSG is a similar
indicator.
I expect all devices to have some additional STOP_COPY trailer_data in
addition to their PRE_COPY initial_data and dirty_data
There is a choice to make if we report the trailer_data during
PRE_COPY or not. As this is all estimates, it doesn't matter unless
the trailer_data is very big.
Having all devices trend toward a 0 dirty_bytes to say they are are
done all the pre-copy they can do makes sense from an API
perspective. If one device trends toward 10MB due to a big
trailer_data and one trends toward 0 bytes, how will qemu consistently
decide when best to trigger STOP_COPY? It makes the API less useful.
So, I would not include trailer_data in the dirty_bytes.
Estimating when to move on to STOP_COPY and trying to enforce a SLA on
STOP_COPY are different tasks and will probably end up with different
interfaces.
I still think the right way to approach the SLA is to inform the
driver what the permitted time and data size target is for STOP_COPY
and the driver can proceed or not based on its own internal
calculation.
> useful yet and you don't want to add dead kernel code, then let's
> define that this ioctl is only available in the PRE_COPY* states and
> returns -errno in the STOP_COPY state.
I'm OK with that, in acc it is done by checking migf->total_bytes >
QM_MATCH_SIZE during the read fop
> devices in STOP_COPY and let's also define if there's actually anything
> userspace can infer about remaining STOP_COPY data size while in
> PRE_COPY* via this ioctl. For example, is dirty-bytes zero or the
> remaining data structure size?
If we keep it then I would say it doesn't matter, userspace has to sum
the two values to get the total remaining length estimate, it is just
a bit quirky.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-01 20:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-28 9:01 [PATCH v6 00/10] vfio/hisilicon: add ACC live migration driver Shameer Kolothum
2022-02-28 9:01 ` [PATCH v6 01/10] crypto: hisilicon/qm: Move the QM header to include/linux Shameer Kolothum
2022-02-28 9:01 ` [PATCH v6 02/10] crypto: hisilicon/qm: Move few definitions to common header Shameer Kolothum
2022-02-28 9:01 ` [PATCH v6 03/10] hisi_acc_qm: Move PCI device IDs " Shameer Kolothum
2022-02-28 17:33 ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-28 20:12 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-02-28 20:23 ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-28 20:55 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-02-28 9:01 ` [PATCH v6 04/10] hisi_acc_vfio_pci: add new vfio_pci driver for HiSilicon ACC devices Shameer Kolothum
2022-02-28 9:01 ` [PATCH v6 05/10] hisi_acc_vfio_pci: Restrict access to VF dev BAR2 migration region Shameer Kolothum
2022-02-28 9:01 ` [PATCH v6 06/10] hisi_acc_vfio_pci: Add helper to retrieve the struct pci_driver Shameer Kolothum
2022-02-28 9:01 ` [PATCH v6 07/10] vfio: Extend the device migration protocol with PRE_COPY Shameer Kolothum
2022-02-28 9:01 ` [PATCH v6 08/10] crypto: hisilicon/qm: Set the VF QM state register Shameer Kolothum
2022-02-28 9:01 ` [PATCH v6 09/10] hisi_acc_vfio_pci: Add support for VFIO live migration Shameer Kolothum
2022-02-28 14:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-28 18:01 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2022-02-28 18:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-28 20:16 ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-28 20:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-28 21:20 ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-28 23:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-01 4:41 ` Alex Williamson
2022-03-01 13:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-01 19:30 ` Alex Williamson
2022-03-01 20:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-03-01 22:44 ` Alex Williamson
2022-03-02 0:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-02 9:07 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2022-02-28 9:01 ` [PATCH v6 10/10] hisi_acc_vfio_pci: Use its own PCI reset_done error handler Shameer Kolothum
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