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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.ibm.com>,
	Holger Dengler <dengler@linux.ibm.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>,
	Simo Sorce <simo@redhat.com>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] lib/crypto: Add SHA3-224, SHA3-256, SHA3-384, SHA-512, SHAKE128, SHAKE256
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 08:32:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250923153228.GA1570@sol> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <506171.1758637355@warthog.procyon.org.uk>

On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 03:22:35PM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > Also, the parameter should be strongly typed: 'struct sha3_state *'
> > Likewise in all the other functions that take the raw u64 array.
> 
> Those function may be directly substituted by calls to assembly code - so
> u64[] is probably more appropriate.

We've been using strongly-typed state even for assembly functions.  See
the SHA-1, SHA-2, and ChaCha code.

> > > +	for (round = 0; round < KECCAK_ROUNDS; round++) {
> > > +		keccakf_round(st);
> > > +		/* Iota */
> > > +		st[0] ^= keccakf_rndc[round];
> > > +	}
> > 
> > In the spec, "Iota" is part of the round.  Having it be separate from
> > keccakf_round() in the code is confusing.
> 
> I assume that pertains to the comment about inlining in some way.  This is as
> is in sha3_generic.c.  I can move it into the round function if you like, but
> can you tell me what the effect will be?

The effect will be that the code will align more closely with how the
algorithm is described in the SHA-3 spec and other publications.

> > Second, the support for update() + squeeze() + update() + squeeze()
> > seems to be trying to achieve something that is not defined in the SHA-3
> > spec.  Could you elaborate on what it is meant to be doing, and why it's
> > here?  According to the spec, the XOFs SHAKE128 and SHAKE256 actually
> > just take a single message as their input.
> 
> Turns out I was misunderstanding what I was looking at whilst trying to adapt
> Leancrypto's dilithium code.  Whilst it does squeeze a context several times,
> it doesn't update it after finalising it without reinitialising it.

Yes, that's what I thought.

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-23 15:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-19 16:31 [PATCH v2] lib/crypto: Add SHA3-224, SHA3-256, SHA3-384, SHA-512, SHAKE128, SHAKE256 David Howells
2025-09-19 19:04 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-19 19:48   ` David Howells
2025-09-19 19:53     ` Stephan Mueller
2025-09-19 20:47       ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-19 21:20         ` Stephan Mueller
2025-09-19 20:32     ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-23 17:36       ` David Howells
2025-09-23 17:45         ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-20 10:53 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-21 19:27 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-21 21:18   ` David Howells
2025-09-21 21:57     ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-23 14:22   ` David Howells
2025-09-23 15:32     ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2025-09-23 16:25       ` David Howells
2025-09-23 16:31         ` David Howells
2025-09-25  8:39           ` Ard Biesheuvel

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