From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.ibm.com>,
Holger Dengler <dengler@linux.ibm.com>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>,
Simo Sorce <simo@redhat.com>,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] lib/crypto: Add SHA3-224, SHA3-256, SHA3-384, SHA-512, SHAKE128, SHAKE256
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 08:32:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250923153228.GA1570@sol> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <506171.1758637355@warthog.procyon.org.uk>
On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 03:22:35PM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > Also, the parameter should be strongly typed: 'struct sha3_state *'
> > Likewise in all the other functions that take the raw u64 array.
>
> Those function may be directly substituted by calls to assembly code - so
> u64[] is probably more appropriate.
We've been using strongly-typed state even for assembly functions. See
the SHA-1, SHA-2, and ChaCha code.
> > > + for (round = 0; round < KECCAK_ROUNDS; round++) {
> > > + keccakf_round(st);
> > > + /* Iota */
> > > + st[0] ^= keccakf_rndc[round];
> > > + }
> >
> > In the spec, "Iota" is part of the round. Having it be separate from
> > keccakf_round() in the code is confusing.
>
> I assume that pertains to the comment about inlining in some way. This is as
> is in sha3_generic.c. I can move it into the round function if you like, but
> can you tell me what the effect will be?
The effect will be that the code will align more closely with how the
algorithm is described in the SHA-3 spec and other publications.
> > Second, the support for update() + squeeze() + update() + squeeze()
> > seems to be trying to achieve something that is not defined in the SHA-3
> > spec. Could you elaborate on what it is meant to be doing, and why it's
> > here? According to the spec, the XOFs SHAKE128 and SHAKE256 actually
> > just take a single message as their input.
>
> Turns out I was misunderstanding what I was looking at whilst trying to adapt
> Leancrypto's dilithium code. Whilst it does squeeze a context several times,
> it doesn't update it after finalising it without reinitialising it.
Yes, that's what I thought.
- Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-23 15:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-19 16:31 [PATCH v2] lib/crypto: Add SHA3-224, SHA3-256, SHA3-384, SHA-512, SHAKE128, SHAKE256 David Howells
2025-09-19 19:04 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-19 19:48 ` David Howells
2025-09-19 19:53 ` Stephan Mueller
2025-09-19 20:47 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-19 21:20 ` Stephan Mueller
2025-09-19 20:32 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-23 17:36 ` David Howells
2025-09-23 17:45 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-20 10:53 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-21 19:27 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-21 21:18 ` David Howells
2025-09-21 21:57 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-23 14:22 ` David Howells
2025-09-23 15:32 ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2025-09-23 16:25 ` David Howells
2025-09-23 16:31 ` David Howells
2025-09-25 8:39 ` Ard Biesheuvel
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