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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	"Jason A . Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/17] crypto: jitterentropy - use default sha3 implementation
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 21:20:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251020212057.GA83624@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1062228.1760956530@warthog.procyon.org.uk>

On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 11:35:30AM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Why don't you take my approach and just call lib/crypto/sha3 directly rather
> than using a crypto/ object as an intermediary if that crypto/ object is just
> going to wrap lib/crypto?

We'll do that, and thanks for writing the patch already!  But that's
something to do in a later patch after adding the library API.  Your
patch description kind of raised a red flag:

    Make the jitterentropy RNG use lib/crypto/sha3 rather than
    crypto/sha3.

    For some reason it goes absolutely wild if crypto/sha3 is
    reimplemented to use lib/crypto/sha3, but it's fine if it uses lib
    directly.

That implies that your changes broke crypto_shash, so you *had* to
convert to the library right away as a workaround for that.

That shouldn't be necessary.  We should generally keep crypto_shash
working for now.  In which case, all jitterentropy should need for now
is a simple substitution s/sha3-256-generic/sha3-256/.

We'll convert jitterentropy to use the library API too.  It's better,
after all.  But it should be done later and because the library API is
better -- not as some sort of workaround.

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-20 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-20  0:50 [PATCH 00/17] SHA-3 library Eric Biggers
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 01/17] s390/sha3: Rename conflicting functions Eric Biggers
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 02/17] arm64/sha3: " Eric Biggers
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 03/17] lib/crypto: Add SHA3-224, SHA3-256, SHA3-384, SHA3-512, SHAKE128, SHAKE256 Eric Biggers
2025-10-20  7:07   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-10-20 10:39     ` David Howells
2025-10-20 23:54       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 04/17] lib/crypto: Move the SHA3 Iota transform into the single round function Eric Biggers
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 05/17] lib/crypto: Add SHA3 kunit tests Eric Biggers
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 06/17] lib/crypto: sha3: Fix libsha3 build condition Eric Biggers
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 07/17] lib/crypto: sha3: Use appropriate conversions in sha3_keccakf_generic() Eric Biggers
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 08/17] lib/crypto: sha3: Drop unfinished SHAKE support from gen-hash-testvecs.py Eric Biggers
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 09/17] lib/crypto: sha3: Consistently use EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL Eric Biggers
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 10/17] lib/crypto: sha3: Replace redundant ad-hoc test with FIPS test Eric Biggers
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 11/17] lib/crypto: sha3: Simplify the API Eric Biggers
2025-10-20 10:33   ` David Howells
2025-10-20 17:18     ` Eric Biggers
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 12/17] lib/crypto: sha3: Document one-shot functions in header and improve docs Eric Biggers
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 13/17] crypto: arm64/sha3 - Update sha3_ce_transform() to prepare for library Eric Biggers
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 14/17] lib/crypto: arm64/sha3: Migrate optimized code into library Eric Biggers
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 15/17] lib/crypto: s390/sha3: " Eric Biggers
2025-10-20 14:00   ` Holger Dengler
2025-10-20 14:23     ` Holger Dengler
2025-10-20 17:57     ` Eric Biggers
2025-10-21  7:24       ` Holger Dengler
2025-10-21  8:43         ` Holger Dengler
2025-10-21 15:49           ` Eric Biggers
2025-10-24 14:24             ` Harald Freudenberger
2025-10-24 16:11               ` Eric Biggers
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 16/17] crypto: jitterentropy - use default sha3 implementation Eric Biggers
2025-10-20 10:35   ` David Howells
2025-10-20 21:20     ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2025-10-20  0:50 ` [PATCH 17/17] crypto: sha3 - Reimplement using library API Eric Biggers
2025-10-21  6:53   ` David Howells
2025-10-22 10:13 ` [PATCH 00/17] SHA-3 library Ard Biesheuvel

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