From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@kernel.org>,
Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
"Jason A . Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>,
Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
Ignat Korchagin <ignat@cloudflare.com>,
keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-modules@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] lib/crypto: Add ML-DSA verification support
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2025 00:50:17 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251121005017.GD3532564@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2624664.1763646918@warthog.procyon.org.uk>
On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 01:55:18PM +0000, David Howells wrote:
> Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > + /* Compute d = (c mod 2^32) * (q^-1 mod 2^32). */
> > + s32 d = (s32)c * QINV_MOD_R;
>
> Hmmm... is "(s32)c" actually "(c mod 2^32)"? Should that be:
>
> u32 d = (u32)c * QINV_MOD_R;
>
> This is followed up by casting 'd' to "s64". I don't think that should
> sign-extend it, but...
It selects the representative in the range [INT32_MIN, INT32_MAX],
rather than the representative in the range [0, UINT32_MAX]. The sign
extension is intentional. This makes the reduction more symmetric so
that the range of supported unreduced products is roughly symmetric.
I'll update the comments to clarify this.
> > + for (int m = 0, len = 128; len >= 1; len /= 2) {
>
> Can you put "int m = 0" outside of the for-statement? I know putting it
> inside saves a line or two, but 'm' is not the loop counter - which it seems
> like it should be by virtue of being listed first.
>
> > + for (int m = 256, len = 1; len < 256; len *= 2) {
>
> Ditto.
Sure.
>
> > +static const u8 *decode_t1_elem(struct mldsa_ring_elem *out,
> > + const u8 *t1_encoded)
>
> I think this is (more or less) pkDecode()? Can you put something like:
>
> * Decode the vector 't1' from the public key.
> * Reference: FIPS 204 Algorithm 23, sigDecode.
>
> in the comment before it?
Sure.
> > +/*
> > + * Use @seed to generate a ring element @c with coefficients in {-1, 0, 1},
> > + * exactly @tau of them nonzero. Reference: FIPS 204 Algorithm 29, SampleInBall
> > + */
> > +static void sample_in_ball(struct mldsa_ring_elem *c, const u8 *seed,
> > + size_t seed_len, int tau, struct shake_ctx *shake)
>
> Should "seed" actually be labelled "rho"? I know a seed is what it is, but
> the algo description has a different label - and the caller passes it ctilde,
> not rho:-/.
FIPS 204 Algorithm 29 SampleInBall uses the variable rho for the seed,
while also calling it a "seed" in the descriptive text. However,
elsewhere rho refers specifically to the public key's random seed. I
think just calling it "seed" makes sense here.
> > + u8 (*h)[N]; /* The signer's hint vector, length k */
> > + h = (u8 (*)[N])&ws->z[l];
>
> C is weird sometimes.
We could make it a 'u8 *', but then we'd have to use array indices like
h[i*k + j] rather than h[i][j]. May be worth it anyway, to avoid the
slightly-unusual syntax.
> > + /* Reduce to [0, q), then tmp = w'_1 = UseHint(h, w'_Approx) */
>
> Bracket mismatch. "[0, q]"
It's intentional, since it denotes a mathematical range. Elsewhere I
used the words "the range" explicitly, so I'll add that above too. (Or
maybe reword it differently.)
>
> > + /* w1Encode(w'_1) */
> > + w1_pos = 0;
> > ...
>
> Given you put the decode functions into helpers, don't you want to do that
> with this?
Sure, I'll move the w1Encode part into a helper function.
> > + if (memcmp(ws->ctildeprime, ctilde, params->ctilde_len) != 0)
> > + return -EBADMSG;
>
> Actually, this should return -EKEYREJECTED, not -EBADMSG.
Who/what decided that? A lot of the crypto code uses -EBADMSG already.
crypto_aead uses it, for example.
> I guess you don't need to use crypto_memneq() as timing doesn't matter.
Correct.
> The maths look okay, I think. You can add:
>
> Reviewed-by: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Thanks,
- Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-21 0:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-20 0:36 [PATCH 0/4] lib/crypto: ML-DSA verification support Eric Biggers
2025-11-20 0:36 ` [PATCH 1/4] lib/crypto: Add " Eric Biggers
2025-11-20 8:14 ` David Howells
2025-11-21 2:15 ` Eric Biggers
2025-11-20 9:10 ` David Howells
2025-11-21 0:09 ` Eric Biggers
2025-11-20 13:55 ` David Howells
2025-11-21 0:50 ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2025-11-21 12:41 ` David Howells
2025-11-21 17:14 ` Eric Biggers
2025-11-21 17:41 ` David Howells
2025-11-25 4:29 ` Eric Biggers
2025-11-21 21:39 ` David Howells
2025-11-21 22:23 ` Eric Biggers
2025-11-21 22:29 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-11-21 22:48 ` Eric Biggers
2025-11-29 20:00 ` Becker, Hanno
2025-11-30 0:19 ` Eric Biggers
2025-11-30 1:05 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2025-11-30 7:15 ` Becker, Hanno
2025-11-30 19:06 ` Eric Biggers
2025-11-20 0:36 ` [PATCH 2/4] lib/crypto: tests: Add KUnit tests for ML-DSA Eric Biggers
2025-11-20 2:29 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2025-11-20 0:36 ` [PATCH 3/4] lib/crypto: tests: Add ML-DSA-65 test cases Eric Biggers
2025-11-20 0:36 ` [PATCH 4/4] lib/crypto: tests: Add ML-DSA-87 " Eric Biggers
2025-11-20 8:11 ` [PATCH 0/4] lib/crypto: ML-DSA verification support David Howells
2025-11-21 6:16 ` Eric Biggers
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