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From: Chris Leech <cleech@redhat.com>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Ryan Appel <ryan.appel.333@gmail.com>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,  wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com,
	"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Subject: Re: Kernel ML-KEM implementation plans
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2026 11:27:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260406-e1d94afb79556186f06749f4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260331001358.GA5190@sol>

On Mon, Mar 30, 2026 at 05:13:58PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2026 at 06:41:46PM -0500, Ryan Appel wrote:
> > Hello all, 
> > 
> > Looking through the mail archives I see no information on an
> > implementation of ML-KEM that has been planned, except for leancrypto
> > attempting to make a Key-Agreement Scheme a Key-Encapsulation
> > Mechanism.
> > 
> > Is there a plan to implement a KEM interface at this point? Is this
> > something that needs support?  How could someone contribute to this?
> 
> We don't add new algorithms preemptively, but rather only when an
> in-kernel user comes along.  Otherwise there's a risk that the code will
> never be used.
> 
> Do you have a specific in-kernel user in mind?  I haven't actually heard
> anyone specifically say they need ML-KEM in the kernel yet.
> 
> I guess the obvious use case would be WireGuard.  But that would require
> a new WireGuard protocol version that replaces X25519 with something
> like X25519MLKEM768.  It's going to be up to the WireGuard author
> (Jason) to decide whether that's in the roadmap for WireGuard.
> 
> Also maybe Bluetooth, though it seems the spec for that is yet to be
> defined?
> 
> Anyway, point is, before it makes sense to consider possible
> implementation strategies, there needs to be a plan to actually use it.

The NVMe fabrics authentication protocol will need a PQC replacement for
it's FFDHE use. There is not a specification update for that yet.

- Chris


      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-06 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-30 23:41 Kernel ML-KEM implementation plans Ryan Appel
2026-03-31  0:13 ` Eric Biggers
2026-03-31  0:44   ` Ryan Appel
2026-03-31  1:11     ` Eric Biggers
2026-04-02 17:08       ` Ryan Appel
2026-04-06 18:27   ` Chris Leech [this message]

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