From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Dmitry Safonov <0x7f454c46@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com>,
Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
"Jason A . Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Dmitry Safonov <dima@arista.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] Reimplement TCP-AO using crypto library
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 16:20:54 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260427232054.GA2700@sol> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260427200116.GA3454259@google.com>
On Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 08:01:16PM +0000, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > - Ronald P. Bonica (the original RFC5925 author), together with Tony
> > Li do have an active RFC draft to support the additional algorithms
[...]
> > [1] https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-bonica-tcpm-tcp-ao-algs-00.html
For what it's worth, that draft makes very little sense. For example,
it proposes three variants of HMAC-SHA3, instead of just making the
modern choice of KMAC256. And it proposes both HMAC-SHA384 and
HMAC-SHA512, despite them being redundant with each other after the
specified truncation to 128 bits.
Thus, it's clear that draft needs some work. That would include, for
example, input from people who may be more familiar with best practices
for choosing cryptographic algorithms in new designs.
So I don't think the Linux kernel's implementation should, or needs to,
already implement all the algorithms in that unofficial draft.
All that's needed is the flexibility to add new algorithms later,
whether from a fixed version of that draft or from somewhere else.
We'll still have that with the library.
And to emphasize again, the current code also isn't really generic. So
the support for new MACs doesn't necessarily come for free currently.
It probably works for arbitrary HMACs. But HMAC != MAC. If
AES-256-CMAC, BLAKE2, KMAC256, Poly1305-AES, or just about any other MAC
is ever needed, the code would have to be changed to support it anyway.
- Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-27 23:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-27 17:27 [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] Reimplement TCP-AO using crypto library Eric Biggers
2026-04-27 17:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/5] net/tcp-ao: Drop support for most non-RFC-specified algorithms Eric Biggers
2026-04-27 17:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/5] net/tcp-ao: Use crypto library API instead of crypto_ahash Eric Biggers
2026-04-28 1:24 ` David Laight
2026-04-28 1:35 ` Eric Biggers
2026-04-27 17:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/5] net/tcp-ao: Use stack-allocated MAC and traffic_key buffers Eric Biggers
2026-04-27 17:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/5] net/tcp-ao: Return void from functions that can no longer fail Eric Biggers
2026-04-27 17:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/5] net/tcp: Remove tcp_sigpool Eric Biggers
2026-04-27 19:09 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] Reimplement TCP-AO using crypto library Dmitry Safonov
2026-04-27 20:01 ` Eric Biggers
2026-04-27 23:20 ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2026-04-27 22:55 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-28 0:00 ` Dmitry Safonov
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