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From: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org, iwd@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, Milan Broz <gmazyland@gmail.com>,
	Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: af_alg - Add af_alg_restrict sysctl, defaulting to 1
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2026 12:24:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202606231216.14A774833@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260622234803.6982-1-ebiggers@kernel.org>

On Mon, Jun 22, 2026 at 04:48:03PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> AF_ALG is a frequent source of vulnerabilities and a maintenance
> nightmare.  It exposes far more functionality to userspace than ever
> should have been exposed, especially to unprivileged processes.  Recent
> exploits have targeted kernel internal implementation details like
> "authencesn" that have zero use case for userspace access.

I absolutely want to see this attack surface reduction.

> Add a sysctl /proc/sys/crypto/af_alg_restrict with meaning:
> [...]
> Note that the list may be tweaked in the future.  However, the common
> use cases such as iwd and bluez are taken into account already.  I've
> tested that iwd still works with the default value of 1.

I wince at this bit, though. This is a "security policy in the kernel"
which we try to avoid, and it's could be done already in userspace with
modprobe blacklist.

But, as you say, AF_ALG is deprecated. I understand that to mean that
the alg list is only ever going to *shrink* in the future.

Using a sysctl means monolithic kernels are protected, but wouldn't
those systems just compile AF_ALG out?

So, I guess, I would want a more clear rationale for why we do it this
way instead of via modprobe blacklist. I see a few reasons, but they
don't really convince me that we should ignore the "no security policy
in the kernel" rule to do it this way.

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-23 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-22 23:48 [PATCH] crypto: af_alg - Add af_alg_restrict sysctl, defaulting to 1 Eric Biggers
2026-06-23  8:42 ` Bastien Nocera
2026-06-23 16:54   ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-23 15:04 ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2026-06-23 16:52   ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-23 17:29     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-06-23 17:45       ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-23 18:05     ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-23 18:51       ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2026-06-23 17:24 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-06-23 17:58   ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-23 19:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-23 19:27   ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-23 19:24 ` Kees Cook [this message]
2026-06-23 19:49   ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-23 21:28 ` Rosen Penev

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