From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-alma10-1.taild15c8.ts.net [100.103.45.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5345D37F755 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2026 15:27:24 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1783610847; cv=none; b=bdwf+vxA8mMHuKwoRfvuNiOZo68RoQqKy88K5hFWbEov9DCENe+vgk1du8v5DAwzqJRjysCXUvzEZEz8DWT1bYoMp/3AB3y9HfeJVtGFV0Dr+97bJgvMANXOot29Gl8zQ2qL8Fs6sgXFII58Ham31kEnPEUjG1smw8OxwCqhE8A= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1783610847; c=relaxed/simple; bh=ABwhp410kKyCXET/wnxdJ5t5QT1XbP5Bx0W21iMax/Y=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=ljh3Rti0DON9DJ1GLrpGddZREhCnnDIiE1wPNDvBOvnw1ak+crF0UQbJILSkoVSNxfkKN4jkhVIg/HRJCq1CV5T93e9pr1Kfmjisr0bJfVcSQNjqBnhFDLmrOd3UIumyJT1HSphyz1nrCmxhKXnW9yIvqTE4CfTFT/Ghdd+YD74= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=e8XPsNvy; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="e8XPsNvy" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8C4951F000E9; Thu, 9 Jul 2026 15:27:22 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1783610842; bh=0sP/MjSLcB/7GCXYU7a/ogplGBFTPfKJpRq3p8Kmc3s=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=e8XPsNvyhQ+BiCOFCFeddNHpswfnN4NGdl/FVqjTX68phTlv2/LWjVWwbMmM6MxM+ XuNPX5zWjQKfrmaslTM4TEf9TWz4+gEpM3lh3mFJ2LZnyKqECc2V0zfaR+fvxUrUkR PM51WnV3GZk1U2iRmceyp2nQHeF3Fn88t+l3pabWl/o89EpJB+mhW0B6jx8xLw1Hht JlLPdXdDpKBuDk4bMFpyM1w6YWWkrtN5PEdr/gQBAqMD7J1I10+EDxI7twmxgnOFYH as44FF6z8Rr91V9kYRSpHBrBoE15901bkJupX+MLhIM4En8XVPkGjHQQEm7jalwnmL x+4pYXemrLD9A== Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2026 11:27:20 -0400 From: Eric Biggers To: Christoph Anton Mitterer Cc: Milan Broz , linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, Herbert Xu Subject: Re: AF_ALG deprecation fallout Message-ID: <20260709152720.GB3342@quark> References: <27816cc353731e8e5484adad7d0fc447777727d8.camel@scientia.org> <20260708011112.GA3890@sol> <04fbbc8611699e469f44edbccdf3cf1ac65075d3.camel@scientia.org> <20260708030153.GA14700@sol> <5B8D2771-3FBD-4FF0-A2A0-A57120A53F5A@scientia.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5B8D2771-3FBD-4FF0-A2A0-A57120A53F5A@scientia.org> On Thu, Jul 09, 2026 at 02:38:50PM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Hey. > > Am 9. Juli 2026 12:47:06 MESZ schrieb Milan Broz : > >On 7/8/26 5:01 AM, Eric Biggers wrote: > >See my explanation here > >https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/-/merge_requests/420#note_2520172869 > > Do you strictly need an RFC? > > Nevertheless, I've mailed to the author of draft-irtf-cfrg-xchacha whether he has still any plans with it. > At least then we'd know if it's worth waiting. XChaCha is seeing significant use in practice, both in the kernel already and in the broader community. It is secure if ChaCha is secure. An RFC would be nice but I would not consider it necessary. - Eric