From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Mohamad Raizudeen <raizudeen.kerneldev@gmail.com>,
ardb@kernel.org, Jason@zx2c4.com, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lib/crypto: aes: use memzero_explicit() instead of memset()
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2026 16:31:31 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261030163131.21d8f0ff@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261029173119.GE1862@quark>
On Thu, 29 Oct 2026 10:31:19 -0700
Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 08:56:33PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Oct 2026 15:51:34 +0000
> > Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 07:56:36PM +0530, Mohamad Raizudeen wrote:
> > > > aes_gcm_decrypt() and aes_ccm_decrypt() use plain memset() to wipe the
> > > > output buffer when authentication fails. But the compiler can optimize
> > > > that wipe away, so use memzero_explicit() instead of memset().
> > > >
> > > > This matches every other sensitive wipes in this file, which already
> > > > uses memzero_explicit() for keystream blocks, tmp buffers, ctx
> > > > teardowns.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Mohamad Raizudeen <raizudeen.kerneldev@gmail.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > lib/crypto/aes.c | 4 ++--
> > > > 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/lib/crypto/aes.c b/lib/crypto/aes.c
> > > > index e1c191551736..7814ef525239 100644
> > > > --- a/lib/crypto/aes.c
> > > > +++ b/lib/crypto/aes.c
> > > > @@ -1733,7 +1733,7 @@ int aes_gcm_decrypt(u8 *dst, const u8 *src, size_t data_len, const u8 *authtag,
> > > > * Clear the inauthentic decrypted data so that callers won't
> > > > * receive it even if they fail to correctly handle errors.
> > > > */
> > > > - memset(dst, 0, data_len);
> > > > + memzero_explicit(dst, data_len);
> > >
> > > This isn't for "zeroization" (making the data unavailable in ramdumps),
> > > though. It's just so the caller doesn't accidentally use the
> > > inauthentic data, as the comment right above it states.
> >
> > It is also a parameter so has to be zeroed anyway.
> > memzero_explicit() is used to clear on-stack buffers.
>
> Well, that assumes link-time optimization is not done. The kernel
> supports being built with link-time optimization.
>
> I guess the motivation for this patch would be:
>
> (1) Shut up LLMs that think the use of memset() is inconsistent
>
> (2) Maybe the caller really does want "zeroization" for the dst
> buffer, even on failure -- and this guarantees it for them, even
> if LTO is enabled, without having to do it themselves. (Though
> on success, they'll have to do it anyway.)
>
> So I'm tempted to apply this patch anyway.
>
> But the zeroization stuff is getting kind of annoying at this point,
> when it's unreliable anyway (it's not like we zero out the registers,
> which can then be spilled to the stack and/or written to the task_struct
> on context switch) and can even be counterproductive (by forcing data to
> be written to memory so that memset() can run on it, instead of kept
> entirely in registers). And Sashiko likes to flag them as Critical
> issues, which is not at all accurate.
OTOH, if someone does a memset() then maybe the compiler should never
throw it away?
David
>
> - Eric
>
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Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-28 14:26 [PATCH] lib/crypto: aes: use memzero_explicit() instead of memset() Mohamad Raizudeen
2026-10-28 15:51 ` Eric Biggers
2026-10-28 20:56 ` David Laight
2026-10-29 17:31 ` Eric Biggers
2026-10-30 3:32 ` Mohamad Raizudeen
2026-10-30 16:31 ` David Laight [this message]
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