From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, "Jason A . Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 7/8] crypto/sha3: Add SHAKE128/256 support
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2025 14:02:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2284488.1759323746@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250926211415.GC2163@sol>
Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org> wrote:
> I recommend holding off on this part until you have a try at using the
> SHAKE library API directly. The dispatch to different algorithms could
> be done in the calling code. This patch would also limit the ML-DSA
> code to fixed-size SHAKE outputs; is that really going to be enough?
Actually, ML-DSA also allows SHA2 hashes for the prehash, so if I use
crypto_shash for that, then I maintain the flexibility through that.
> When there's only a small number of supported algorithms, just doing the
> dispatch in the calling code tends to be simpler than using
> crypto_shash. For example, see the recent conversion of fs/verity/ to
> use the SHA-2 library API instead of crypto_shash.
That's reinventing the wheel. Why have crypto_shash at all if we're going to
encourage people to ignore that and use a union and an enum/ops table.
Is the goal to get rid of crypto/ entirely and use lib/crypto/ instead? Not
that I wouldn't mind a better crypto offloading API - the one we have kind of
sucks, especially for offloading to async crypto h/w (sorry Herbert;-)).
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-01 13:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-26 14:19 [PATCH v3 0/8] crypto, lib/crypto: Add SHAKE128/256 support and move SHA3 to lib/crypto David Howells
2025-09-26 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] s390/sha3: Rename conflicting functions David Howells
2025-09-29 11:39 ` Harald Freudenberger
2025-09-26 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] arm64/sha3: " David Howells
2025-09-26 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] lib/crypto: Add SHA3-224, SHA3-256, SHA3-384, SHA-512, SHAKE128, SHAKE256 David Howells
2025-09-26 21:09 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-26 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] lib/crypto: Move the SHA3 Iota transform into the single round function David Howells
2025-09-26 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] lib/crypto: Add SHA3 kunit tests David Howells
2025-10-01 16:04 ` Eric Biggers
2025-10-01 16:08 ` Eric Biggers
2025-10-02 13:05 ` David Howells
2025-10-02 16:07 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-26 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] crypto/sha3: Use lib/crypto/sha3 David Howells
2025-09-26 21:25 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-26 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] crypto/sha3: Add SHAKE128/256 support David Howells
2025-09-26 21:14 ` Eric Biggers
2025-10-01 13:02 ` David Howells [this message]
2025-10-01 15:25 ` Eric Biggers
2025-09-26 14:19 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] crypto: SHAKE tests David Howells
2025-09-26 19:59 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] crypto, lib/crypto: Add SHAKE128/256 support and move SHA3 to lib/crypto Eric Biggers
2025-10-01 15:28 ` Eric Biggers
2025-10-02 13:14 ` David Howells
2025-10-02 16:27 ` Eric Biggers
2025-10-11 0:26 ` Eric Biggers
2025-10-16 12:35 ` David Howells
2025-10-16 14:34 ` David Howells
2025-10-16 14:56 ` Stephan Mueller
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