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From: Jarod Wilson <jarod@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	"Venkatesh Pallipadi (Venki)" <venki@google.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.hengli.com.au>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] clocksource: add support for entropy-generation function
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:19:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DFBC4E9.902@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1106172247070.11814@ionos>

Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jun 2011, Jarod Wilson wrote:
>> Add a new function pointer to struct clocksource that can optionally be
>> filled in by clocksources deemed to be high enough resolution to feed
>> the random number generator entropy pool.
>
> Uurrg.
>
>> + * @entropy:		random entropy pool addition function (optional, and
>> + *			requires a fairly high-resolution clocksource)
>
> Why do you want to do that ? Looking at the implementations of TSC and
> HPET it's the same code. We really do not want to add that all over
> the place. We can make that a property flag and the entropy function
> common to the core code.
>
>> +/**
>> + * Do we have at least one clocksource that can generate entropy?
>> + */
>> +bool clocksource_entropy_available(void)
>> +{
>> +	struct clocksource *src;
>> +	bool entropy_possible = false;
>> +
>> +	mutex_lock(&clocksource_mutex);
>> +	list_for_each_entry(src,&clocksource_list, list) {
>> +		if (src->entropy) {
>> +			entropy_possible = true;
>> +			break;
>> +		}
>> +	}
>> +	mutex_unlock(&clocksource_mutex);
>> +
>> +	return entropy_possible;
>> +}
>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(clocksource_entropy_available);
>
> That should be evaluated when clocksources are registered not at some
> random point in time, which might return total nonsense as it's not
> guaranteed that the clocksource which has the entropy property is
> going to end up as the current clocksource.
>
>> +/**
>> + * Call the clocksource's entropy-generation function, if set
>> + */
>> +void clocksource_add_entropy(void)
>> +{
>> +	if (!curr_clocksource->entropy)
>> +		return;
>
> Why restricting it to the current clocksource? We can use the best
> registered one for this which has the entropy property set.

Yeah, John had some similar suggestions, and locally, I've got a 
modified version that instead of adding entropy functions for each 
clocksource, adds an entropy rating, then the highest rated entropy 
clocksource gets used, but a common clocksource entropy function that 
calls the chosen clocksource's read function. The entropy clocksource 
function gets picked by way of another function similar to 
clocksource_select, called in all the same places.

However, since none of this is going to be viable until the random code 
is significantly restructured, I haven't bothered with posting any of 
the updates I've made. I can toss the delta out there if anyone really 
wants to take a look at it, but otherwise, I'll just sit on it until 
said restructuring happens.

-- 
Jarod Wilson
jarod@redhat.com

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-17 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-13 22:06 [PATCH 0/5] Feed entropy pool via high-resolution clocksources Jarod Wilson
2011-06-13 22:06 ` [PATCH 1/5] random: add new clocksource entropy interface Jarod Wilson
2011-06-13 22:06 ` [PATCH 2/5] clocksource: add support for entropy-generation function Jarod Wilson
2011-06-17 20:52   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-06-17 21:19     ` Jarod Wilson [this message]
2011-06-13 22:06 ` [PATCH 3/5] hpet: wire up entropy generation function Jarod Wilson
2011-06-13 22:06 ` [PATCH 4/5] tsc: " Jarod Wilson
2011-06-13 22:27   ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2011-06-13 22:35     ` Jarod Wilson
2011-06-13 22:36     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-13 23:10       ` Matt Mackall
2011-06-14 18:11         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-14  0:39       ` Kent Borg
2011-06-14  1:47         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-14 12:39           ` Kent Borg
2011-06-14 14:33             ` Matt Mackall
2011-06-14 17:48               ` Kent Borg
2011-06-14 18:00                 ` Matt Mackall
2011-06-14 20:04                   ` Kent Borg
2011-06-14 21:04                     ` Matt Mackall
2011-06-14 14:02           ` Jarod Wilson
2011-06-13 23:55     ` Kent Borg
2011-06-17 20:58     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-06-13 22:06 ` [PATCH 5/5] misc: add clocksource-based entropy generation driver Jarod Wilson
2011-06-17 21:01   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-06-13 22:38 ` [PATCH 0/5] Feed entropy pool via high-resolution clocksources john stultz
2011-06-14 14:25   ` Jarod Wilson
2011-06-13 23:15 ` Matt Mackall
2011-06-14 15:18   ` Jarod Wilson
2011-06-14 15:22     ` Jarod Wilson
2011-06-14 17:13     ` Matt Mackall
2011-06-14 20:17       ` Jarod Wilson
2011-06-14 21:45         ` Matt Mackall
2011-06-14 22:51           ` Jarod Wilson
2011-06-14 23:12             ` Matt Mackall
2011-06-15 14:49               ` Jarod Wilson
2011-06-15 20:06                 ` Matt Mackall
2011-06-17 18:51                   ` Jarod Wilson
2011-06-17 19:29                     ` Neil Horman
2011-06-17 20:46                       ` Matt Mackall
2011-06-17 19:48               ` hpas
2011-06-17 20:28                 ` Matt Mackall
2011-06-18 22:40                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-19 13:38                     ` Neil Horman
2011-06-19 15:07                       ` Herbert Xu
2011-06-20  0:01                         ` H. Peter Anvin

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