From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
x86@kernel.org, Nadia Heninger <nadiah@cs.ucsd.edu>,
Thomas Ristenpart <ristenpart@cornell.edu>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2] random: implement getrandom() in vDSO
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2022 10:48:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871qu0qri6.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220731013125.2103601-1-Jason@zx2c4.com> (Jason A. Donenfeld's message of "Sun, 31 Jul 2022 03:31:25 +0200")
* Jason A. Donenfeld:
> API-wise, vDSO getrandom has a pair of functions:
>
> ssize_t getrandom(void *state, void *buffer, size_t len, unsigned int flags);
> void *getrandom_alloc([inout] size_t *num, [out] size_t *size_per_each);
>
> In the first function, the return value and the latter 3 arguments are
> the same as ordinary getrandom(), while the first argument is a pointer
> to some state allocated with getrandom_alloc(). getrandom_alloc() takes
> the desired number of states, and returns an array of states, the number
> actually allocated, and the size in bytes of each one, enabling a libc
> to use one per thread. We very intentionally do *not* leave state
> allocation up to the caller. There are too many weird things that can go
> wrong, and it's important that vDSO does not provide too generic of a
> mechanism. It's not going to store its state in just any old memory
> address. It'll do it only in ones it allocates.
I still don't see why this couldn't be per-thread state (if you handle
fork generations somehow).
I also think it makes sense to introduce batching for the system call
implementation first, and tie that to the vDSO acceleration. I expect a
large part of the benefit comes from the batching, not the system call
avoidance.
Thanks,
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-01 8:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-29 14:55 [PATCH RFC v1] random: implement getrandom() in vDSO Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-29 20:19 ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-29 22:06 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-30 15:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-30 23:45 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-31 0:23 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-31 1:31 ` [PATCH RFC v2] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-01 8:48 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2022-08-01 12:49 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-01 13:29 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-01 13:00 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-01 20:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-01 23:41 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-02 0:12 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-01 19:30 ` [PATCH RFC v1] " Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-01 23:16 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-02 13:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-02 13:59 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-02 15:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-02 15:26 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-02 22:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-04 15:23 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-04 16:08 ` Jeffrey Walton
2022-08-04 23:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-17 8:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-05 8:36 ` Florian Weimer
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