From: "Sridhar, Kanchana P" <kanchana.p.sridhar@intel.com>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v11 00/24] zswap compression batching with optimized iaa_crypto driver
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:12:19 +0000 [thread overview]
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2025 10:39 PM
> To: Sridhar, Kanchana P <kanchana.p.sridhar@intel.com>
> Cc: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux-
> mm@kvack.org; hannes@cmpxchg.org; yosry.ahmed@linux.dev;
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> <kristen.c.accardi@intel.com>; Gomes, Vinicius <vinicius.gomes@intel.com>;
> Feghali, Wajdi K <wajdi.k.feghali@intel.com>; Gopal, Vinodh
> <vinodh.gopal@intel.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 00/24] zswap compression batching with optimized
> iaa_crypto driver
>
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 07:26:34PM +0000, Sridhar, Kanchana P wrote:
> >
> > 1) The zswap per-CPU acomp_ctx has two sg_tables added, one each for
> > inputs/outputs, with nents set to the pool->compr_batch_size (1 for
> software
> > compressors). This per-CPU data incurs additional memory overhead per-
> CPU,
> > however this is memory that will anyway be allocated on the stack in
> > zswap_compress(); and less memory overhead than the latter because we
> know
> > exactly how many sg_table scatterlists to allocate for the given pool
> > (assuming we don't kmalloc in zswap_compress()). I will make sure to
> quantify
> > the overhead in v12's commit logs.
>
> There is no need for any SG lists for the source. The folio should
> be submitted as the source.
>
> So only the destination requires an SG list.
>
> > 6) "For the source, nothing needs to be done because the folio could be
> passed
> > in as is.". As far as I know, this cannot be accomplished without
> > modifications to the crypto API for software compressors, because
> compressed
> > buffers need to be stored in the zswap/zram zs_pools at PAGE_SIZE
> > granularity.
>
> Sure. But all it needs is one central fallback path in the acompress
> API. I can do this for you.
Thanks Herbert, for reviewing the approach. IIUC, we should follow
these constraints:
1) The folio should be submitted as the source.
2) For the destination, construct an SG list for them and pass that in.
The rule should be that the SG list must contain a sufficient number
of pages for the compression output based on the given unit size
(PAGE_SIZE for zswap).
For PMD folios, there would be 512 compression outputs. In this case,
would we need to pass in an SG list that can contain 512 compression
outputs after calling the acompress API once?
If so, this might not be feasible for zswap since there are only "batch-size"
number of pre-allocated per-CPU output buffers, where "batch_size" is the
max number of pages that can be compressed in one call to the algorithm
(1 for software compressors). Hence, gathering all 512 compression outputs
may not be possible in a single invocation to crypto_acomp_compress().
Is the suggestion to allocate 512 per-CPU output buffers to overcome
this? This could be memory-wise very expensive. Please let me know if
I am missing something.
Thanks for offering to make the necessary changes to the acompress API.
Hoping we can sync on the approach!
Best regards,
Kanchana
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-25 18:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-01 4:36 [PATCH v11 00/24] zswap compression batching with optimized iaa_crypto driver Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 01/24] crypto: iaa - Reorganize the iaa_crypto driver code Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 02/24] crypto: iaa - New architecture for IAA device WQ comp/decomp usage & core mapping Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 03/24] crypto: iaa - Simplify, consistency of function parameters, minor stats bug fix Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 04/24] crypto: iaa - Descriptor allocation timeouts with mitigations Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 05/24] crypto: iaa - iaa_wq uses percpu_refs for get/put reference counting Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 06/24] crypto: iaa - Simplify the code flow in iaa_compress() and iaa_decompress() Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 07/24] crypto: iaa - Refactor hardware descriptor setup into separate procedures Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 08/24] crypto: iaa - Simplified, efficient job submissions for non-irq mode Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 09/24] crypto: iaa - Deprecate exporting add/remove IAA compression modes Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 10/24] crypto: iaa - Rearchitect the iaa_crypto driver to be usable by zswap and zram Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 11/24] crypto: iaa - Enablers for submitting descriptors then polling for completion Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 12/24] crypto: acomp - Add "void *kernel_data" in "struct acomp_req" for kernel users Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 13/24] crypto: iaa - IAA Batching for parallel compressions/decompressions Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 14/24] crypto: iaa - Enable async mode and make it the default Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 15/24] crypto: iaa - Disable iaa_verify_compress by default Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 16/24] crypto: iaa - Submit the two largest source buffers first in decompress batching Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 17/24] crypto: iaa - Add deflate-iaa-dynamic compression mode Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 18/24] crypto: acomp - Add crypto_acomp_batch_size() to get an algorithm's batch-size Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-15 5:28 ` Herbert Xu
2025-08-22 19:31 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-22 21:48 ` Nhat Pham
2025-08-22 21:58 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-22 22:00 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 19/24] crypto: iaa - IAA acomp_algs register the get_batch_size() interface Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-29 0:16 ` Barry Song
2025-08-29 3:12 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 20/24] mm: zswap: Per-CPU acomp_ctx resources exist from pool creation to deletion Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 21/24] mm: zswap: Consistently use IS_ERR_OR_NULL() to check acomp_ctx resources Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 22/24] mm: zswap: Allocate pool batching resources if the compressor supports batching Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-14 20:58 ` Nhat Pham
2025-08-14 22:05 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-26 3:48 ` Barry Song
2025-08-26 4:27 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-26 4:42 ` Barry Song
2025-08-26 4:56 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-26 5:17 ` Barry Song
2025-08-27 0:06 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-28 21:39 ` Barry Song
2025-08-28 22:47 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-28 23:28 ` Barry Song
2025-08-29 2:56 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-29 3:42 ` Barry Song
2025-08-29 18:39 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-30 8:40 ` Barry Song
2025-09-03 18:00 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 23/24] mm: zswap: zswap_store() will process a large folio in batches Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-14 21:05 ` Nhat Pham
2025-08-14 22:10 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-28 23:59 ` Barry Song
2025-08-29 3:06 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-01 4:36 ` [PATCH v11 24/24] mm: zswap: Batched zswap_compress() with compress batching of large folios Kanchana P Sridhar
2025-08-14 21:14 ` Nhat Pham
2025-08-14 22:17 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-28 23:54 ` Barry Song
2025-08-29 3:04 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-29 3:31 ` Barry Song
2025-08-29 3:39 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-08 23:51 ` [PATCH v11 00/24] zswap compression batching with optimized iaa_crypto driver Nhat Pham
2025-08-09 0:03 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-15 5:27 ` Herbert Xu
2025-08-22 19:26 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-25 5:38 ` Herbert Xu
2025-08-25 18:12 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P [this message]
2025-08-26 1:13 ` Herbert Xu
2025-08-26 4:09 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2025-08-26 4:14 ` Herbert Xu
2025-08-26 4:42 ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
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