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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, patches@lists.linux.dev,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 3/4] random: introduce generic vDSO getrandom() implementation
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 17:40:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y4eHiCo8XEr1n7SZ@zx2c4.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <974d7fcb-efbb-4508-a4cb-4b5328669c14@app.fastmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 05:13:18PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022, at 16:47, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> 
> >> > There's padding at the end of the structure, yes. But both
> >> > `generation` and `is_ready` will be at the same offset. If the
> >> > structure grows, then sure, that'll have to be taken into account. But
> >> > that's not a problem because this is a private implementation detail
> >> > between the vdso code and the kernel.
> >>
> >> I was not concerned about incompatibility here, but rather about
> >> possibly leaking kernel data to the vdso page.
> >
> > The vvar page starts out zeroed, no?
> 
> The typical problem is someone doing a copy_to_user() of an in-kernel
> structure into the userspace side, which would then copy the
> padding as well. If the source is on the stack, a malicious caller
> can trick the another syscall into leaving sensitive data at this
> exact stack location.

I'm quite aware of this infoleak, having made use of it countless times
over the years. It just doesn't seem relevant to the vvar page.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-30 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-29 21:06 [PATCH v10 0/4] implement getrandom() in vDSO Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-29 21:06 ` [PATCH v10 1/4] random: add vgetrandom_alloc() syscall Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-29 22:02   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-30  0:59     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30  1:37       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-30  1:42         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 22:39     ` David Laight
2022-12-01  0:14       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 10:51   ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-30 15:39     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 16:38       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-02 14:38         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-01  2:16       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-02 17:17       ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-02 18:29         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-29 21:06 ` [PATCH v10 2/4] arch: allocate vgetrandom_alloc() syscall number Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30  8:56   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-30 10:06     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 10:51       ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-29 21:06 ` [PATCH v10 3/4] random: introduce generic vDSO getrandom() implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-29 22:42   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-30  1:09     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 10:44   ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-30 14:51     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 14:59       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 15:07         ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-30 15:12           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 15:29             ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-30 15:47               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 16:13                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-30 16:40                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2022-11-30 17:00                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-29 21:06 ` [PATCH v10 4/4] x86: vdso: Wire up getrandom() vDSO implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-29 22:52   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-30  1:11     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30  5:22   ` Eric Biggers
2022-11-30 10:12     ` Jason A. Donenfeld

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