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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Simo Sorce <simo@redhat.com>
Cc: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	"Stephan Müller" <smueller@chronox.de>, "Tso Ted" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, "Willy Tarreau" <w@1wt.eu>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v43 01/15] Linux Random Number Generator
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 16:44:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YaEA0fyowmFlDfmK@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56d2da397bb53f71c0354b102c3b40940e9b4eda.camel@redhat.com>

On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 09:59:01AM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
> Jason,
> have you previously produced a list of reasoned concerns with this
> patchset and direction?
> 
> This specific email is not really useful to me to understand the
> concerns as it does not contain actionable suggestion or critique.
> 
> I personally find the direction fine, and with my distribution hat on I
> can say that FIPS is essential for us and any design must include an
> option to be FIPS certifiable.
> 
> As NIST keeps improving their testing capabilities and rigorous
> cryptographic design of the CSPRNGs as well as entropy sources the
> kernel must also adapt.
> 
> Stephan is providing a path forward, and I haven't seen any other
> proposal, let alone code, that provide improvements in this area.
> I am pretty sure the design can be improved if there is detailed and
> actionable feedback on what to change.
> 
> I hope the path forward can be one of collaboration rather then mere
> opposition.

Replacement of the existing code to cut over to the new one is not
collaboration, it's the exact opposite.

Submitting patches to the existing codebase to implement the
"requirements" is the proper way forward, why has that never been done.

Remember, evolution is the correct way of kernel development, not
intelligent design :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-26 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-21 16:39 [PATCH v43 00/15] /dev/random - a new approach Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:40 ` [PATCH v43 01/15] Linux Random Number Generator Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 17:23   ` Joe Perches
2021-11-21 22:42   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-11-22  5:34     ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-22  6:02       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-22  6:42         ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-22  6:55           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-22 15:09             ` Simo Sorce
2021-11-22 21:06               ` Jeffrey Walton
2021-11-23  5:38                 ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-26 15:42               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-22 16:56         ` John Haxby
2021-11-26 15:40           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-22 14:59     ` Simo Sorce
2021-11-26 15:44       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2021-11-26 16:15         ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-26 16:22           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-29 15:31             ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-29 16:25               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-29 16:50                 ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-30 12:24                 ` Jeffrey Walton
2021-11-30 14:04                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-30 14:31                     ` Simo Sorce
2021-11-30 15:45                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-30 17:05                         ` Willy Tarreau
2021-11-30 17:08                         ` Simo Sorce
2021-11-30 18:15                         ` Eric Biggers
2021-11-30 18:39                           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-11-30 19:41                             ` Simo Sorce
2021-12-01 16:02                               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-01 17:19                                 ` Simo Sorce
2021-12-01 17:55                                   ` Boris Krasnovskiy
2021-12-01 18:05                                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-01 18:24                                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-02  0:24                                     ` Jeffrey Walton
2021-12-02  7:12                                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-02 15:50                                         ` John Haxby
2021-12-01 18:29                                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
     [not found]                                 ` <BY5PR14MB3416DF44172D8F47D0B078A986689@BY5PR14MB3416.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
2021-12-01 18:05                                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-10  1:43                                 ` Marcelo Henrique Cerri
2021-12-10  6:46                                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-10  9:30                                     ` Marcelo Henrique Cerri
2021-12-10  9:48                                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-10 17:02                                         ` Simo Sorce
2021-12-11  7:06                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2021-12-11  8:09                                             ` Stephan Müller
2021-12-11  8:57                                               ` Willy Tarreau
2022-01-10 13:23                                   ` Marcelo Henrique Cerri
2022-01-10 14:11                                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-10 14:29                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-10 14:38                                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-10 17:38                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-10 18:29                                             ` Eric Biggers
2022-01-10 18:44                                               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-10 19:41                                                 ` Simo Sorce
2022-01-10 20:05                                                   ` Eric Biggers
2022-01-10 19:49                                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-10 22:19                                                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11  1:44                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-11  3:10                                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-11  4:04                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2022-01-11  4:13                                                         ` Matthew Garrett
2022-01-11 10:01                                                           ` Alexander E. Patrakov
     [not found]                                                           ` <CAN_LGv0CTDi9k=t=TGHvaHZz5YVT+OUEBaRXjP=Xv=kousHY1w@mail.gmail.com>
2022-01-11 17:10                                                             ` Matthew Garrett
2022-01-11 13:16                                                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 16:08                                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-11 13:06                                                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 15:10                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-10 21:38                                                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-10 15:07                                         ` Marcelo Henrique Cerri
2021-11-30 15:13                     ` Jeffrey Walton
2021-11-30 15:39                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-30  7:32       ` Sandy Harris
2021-11-30  7:55         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-30  8:56           ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-30  9:12             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-04  9:53           ` Sandy Harris
2021-11-22 10:33   ` kernel test robot
2021-11-22 11:47     ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-25  5:25       ` [kbuild-all] " Chen, Rong A
2021-11-30  2:55         ` Sandy Harris
2021-11-30  6:06           ` Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:40 ` [PATCH v43 02/15] LRNG - IRQ entropy source Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:40 ` [PATCH v43 03/15] LRNG - sysctls and /proc interface Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:41 ` [PATCH v43 04/15] LRNG - allocate one DRNG instance per NUMA node Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v43 05/15] LRNG - CPU entropy source Stephan Müller
2021-11-22  7:09   ` kernel test robot
2021-11-22 11:48     ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v43 06/15] LRNG - add switchable DRNG support Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:43 ` [PATCH v43 07/15] LRNG - add common generic hash support Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:43 ` [PATCH v43 08/15] crypto: DRBG - externalize DRBG functions for LRNG Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:44 ` [PATCH v43 09/15] LRNG - add SP800-90A DRBG extension Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:45 ` [PATCH v43 10/15] LRNG - add kernel crypto API PRNG extension Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:45 ` [PATCH v43 11/15] crypto: move Jitter RNG header include dir Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:46 ` [PATCH v43 12/15] LRNG - add Jitter RNG fast noise source Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:46 ` [PATCH v43 13/15] LRNG - add SP800-90B compliant health tests Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:47 ` [PATCH v43 14/15] LRNG - add interface for gathering of raw entropy Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:47 ` [PATCH v43 15/15] LRNG - add power-on and runtime self-tests Stephan Müller
2021-12-11 15:45 ` [PATCH v43 00/15] /dev/random - a new approach Thomas Schoebel-Theuer
2021-12-11 16:04   ` Willy Tarreau

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