From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Linux Crypto Mailing List" <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
"Sultan Alsawaf" <sultan@kerneltoast.com>,
"Jonathan Neuschäfer" <j.neuschaefer@gmx.net>,
"Dominik Brodowski" <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] random: defer fast pool mixing to worker
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:16:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ygo6EX1YVgTrtjVT@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHmME9otmV1QCX29D_DXsHB-41puTKurWtyZ39huPZtD4mt5ng@mail.gmail.com>
On 2022-02-14 11:17:20 [+0100], Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> On 2/14/22, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> wrote:
> > to
> > | - Does anything anywhere call get_random_xx() before the worker has a
> > | chance to run?
> >
> > Once you queue a work item I don't think that the scheduler needs to put
> > it on the CPU right away. It may have already have other tasks waiting
> > including some with a RT priority.
> > Also, the lock is irqsave() so they can be users in an interrupt
> > handler. I remember the original reason why I made it irqsave is because
> > something did kmalloc() and SLUB somehow asked for random bits.
>
> Right. So there are two sides of the questions: 1) how bad is this
> actual race, and are there any drivers that do regularly get bit by
> this? 2) There's a largeish window between workqueue_init_early()
> setting up the system highprio workqueue, and workqueue_init()
> enabling queued workers to actually run. Interrupts also get enabled
> in the interim. Does anything get bit by that window?
This is only important during boot-up, right? Otherwise it just extracts
entropy from the pool.
I posted numbers earlier on where the work go scheduled and the three or
four interrupts came in before the work-item was scheduled. I could send
you the diff if you want to up it on some machines.
> Jason
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-14 11:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-11 13:08 [PATCH v5] random: defer fast pool mixing to worker Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-11 15:00 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-11 16:25 ` [PATCH v6] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-11 16:44 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-11 16:50 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-11 16:58 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-11 17:00 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-11 17:15 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-11 17:17 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-11 17:26 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-13 21:04 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-14 10:19 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-13 17:37 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-14 9:16 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-14 10:17 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-14 11:16 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2022-02-14 14:47 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-11 17:07 ` [PATCH v7] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-11 17:20 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2022-02-11 17:24 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
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